DP6 to DP7 upgrade

[bigwayne56]

Hey All,

I know a lot of you are singing DP7's upgrade as a better version than DP6 ever was. I hear you believe me but what my questions is.....

Is it really THAT much better than DP6? The reason I ask is this. I have been using DP on and off since DP3. Now I admit that I use a few different DAW's, Logic, SONAR and Live being the others, and have faithfully upgraded to DP6. When I saw what DP6 was from the MOTU website I was thrilled that they had done what they said they did. Well I plunked down my $200 beans, got my big box of stuff in the mail and installed it right away. Created a new project and tried using my MOST important pieces of software SupDrummer 2 and EZplayer Pro along with BFD 2 and boom! Crashes all over and a great deal of frustration. Make a long story short, I know no piece of software can be perfect for everybody and all have their problems, but with DP having no money back guarantee and no demo it makes it really hard putting that $200 order in to upgrade. I rarely used DP6 after that fiasco and have switched to logic for just about everything. I do however miss a lot of the simpler things from DP's workflow. And really miss the built in beat detection and pitch tools.

How does DP7 work with the following if you don't mind;

- Toontracks drum software tools, EZdrummer and it's expansions, EZplayer Pro, Drumtracker to an extent.
- FXpansion BFD2
- WAVES 7 I know WAVES support has been a sticking point for sometime. And I know it comes from WAVES's side of things but I have Diamond and use their plugs on just about everything.
- PSPaudioware stuff. Lots of their plugs as well.
- Sonalksis plugs.
- How's the memory management with regards to 4GB limit. I know certain plugs like Kontakt and EXS sampler get around themselves but does 7 do anything to help ease the burden of bigger projects?
- Any ideas on a 64bit version?

I also had some issues with screen refreshes and just overall funkiness with the new GUI of DP6. How's the code optimization of 7 compered to 6?

I hate to be a pain in the ass about all this, I just feel very cheated that 6 wasn't what I hoped it to be. I have a pretty steady rule about NOT upgrading to a new piece of released software. I broke the rule so I have no one else t blame but myself so.....

Anyway's thanks for all the help in advance people, I really do appreciate it.

Wayne

[oldecuriosity]

Can't speak about DP 7, but I've been using BFD 2 flawlessly with DP 6 on a MBP and SL. Given that, I'm sure it's working with DP 7.

[kassonica]

You are on a intel machine (as I am) DP7 under SL is very optimised and I've noticed a decent performance increase.

The new plugins are extremely good, as is the channel strip controls appearing in the SE.


There is much to love about it, but on near top of the list is it STABLE, EXTREMELY stable.

[James Steele]

Hey Wayne... welcome. I gotta say that DP 7.12 is about the best version I can remember in a long time. It's head and shoulders above DP 7 and MOTU as of late has been aggressively fixing issues. One of them-- can't remember exactly what was fixed within a week or two of it coming to light on this board.

That said, I'm using similar machine to you... probably not as powerful. First gen Mac Pro 1,1 and I'm so happy with DP 7.12. I would say it needs an Intel machine to really shine. It was good on my G5, but it's downright comfortable on my Mac Pro... and very, very solid. On top of it, if you don't like the way the GUI looks there's always Andy Selby's site:

http://ampguimods.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.

[n2mpujack]

Question:
Can the 'phone home' in DP7 be turned off? Reason I ask is I don't like to keep my daw hooked up to the net if I can help it.

Edit for additional:
In James's post above there's an extra letter in the url. It should be: http://ampguimods.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Shooshie]

Hey All,

I know a lot of you are singing DP7's upgrade as a better version than DP6 ever was. I hear you believe me but what my questions is.....

Is it really THAT much better than DP6? The reason I ask is this. I have been using DP on and off since DP3. Now I admit that I use a few different DAW's, Logic, SONAR and Live being the others, and have faithfully upgraded to DP6. When I saw what DP6 was from the MOTU website I was thrilled that they had done what they said they did. Well I plunked down my $200 beans, got my big box of stuff in the mail and installed it right away. Created a new project and tried using my MOST important pieces of software SupDrummer 2 and EZplayer Pro along with BFD 2 and boom! Crashes all over and a great deal of frustration. Make a long story short, I know no piece of software can be perfect for everybody and all have their problems, but with DP having no money back guarantee and no demo it makes it really hard putting that $200 order in to upgrade. I rarely used DP6 after that fiasco and have switched to logic for just about everything. I do however miss a lot of the simpler things from DP's workflow. And really miss the built in beat detection and pitch tools.

How does DP7 work with the following if you don't mind;

- Toontracks drum software tools, EZdrummer and it's expansions, EZplayer Pro, Drumtracker to an extent.
- FXpansion BFD2
- WAVES 7 I know WAVES support has been a sticking point for sometime. And I know it comes from WAVES's side of things but I have Diamond and use their plugs on just about everything.
- PSPaudioware stuff. Lots of their plugs as well.
- Sonalksis plugs.
- How's the memory management with regards to 4GB limit. I know certain plugs like Kontakt and EXS sampler get around themselves but does 7 do anything to help ease the burden of bigger projects?
- Any ideas on a 64bit version?

I also had some issues with screen refreshes and just overall funkiness with the new GUI of DP6. How's the code optimization of 7 compered to 6?

I hate to be a pain in the ass about all this, I just feel very cheated that 6 wasn't what I hoped it to be. I have a pretty steady rule about NOT upgrading to a new piece of released software. I broke the rule so I have no one else t blame but myself so.....

Anyway's thanks for all the help in advance people, I really do appreciate it.

Wayne

Wayne, 6.12 had fixed most of the problems in DP6, but IMO it still was not all that great. So, I plunked down yet another $200 for 7, thinking "it's GOT to be better than 6.xx!" Well, let me tell you; DP7.0 was the BEST version 0 release (7.zero) in the history of DP. Then came 7.1, which was IMO a little crashy. 7.12 was fantastic. Really great. I've enjoyed this version of DP more than any other since probably 2.7 or something like that. It's been wonderful.

Now, let me tell you something that just might cause you to make the switch and love doing it: Mods for DP. Here are the color schemes reduced to icons.



You really have to see these in action, though. Go to the website and you can click through the slideshow (with your cursor over the picture, use your arrow keys. Click on the ones for which you want to see full screenshots.) These are "donation-ware." Well worth it. I personally use Oxidation and sometimes Sleek.

Shooshie

[bigwayne56]

Hey All,

Thanks to all for replying with the info you all did. I really do appreciate it. I am REALLY on the fence for this one though. I really do like some of the new features though and do like the new "skins" that you can switch the GUI over to. I may see if I can go to a local GC or Sam ASH and see if they have DP7 up and running so I can see the changes in person. Or is anybody would be gracious enough from this board and lives in the Raleigh NC area??? With the economy being what it is $200 is something to just chuck leisurely out the window if I get it and decide it's not what I am looking for.....

Anybody use IKmultimedia software with DP7? I use a lot of they products and Spectrasonics as well.

Just trying to get my ducks in a row before spending what little money I do have......

Peace and thanks again everyone,

Wayne

[James Steele]

Question:
Can the 'phone home' in DP7 be turned off? Reason I ask is I don't like to keep my daw hooked up to the net if I can help it.

Edit for additional:
In James's post above there's an extra letter in the url. It should be: http://ampguimods.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Thanks for pointing out the URL problem. I fixed it.

Why can't you just not have your DAW hooked up to the net? I think the "phone home" is only to check for updates, but I don't think anything will happen if you're not connected to the net. It will still launch and run as usual, right?

[James Steele]

Anybody use IKmultimedia software with DP7? I use a lot of they products and Spectrasonics as well.

Yes. See the recent thread about the group buy. I can tell you that I'm using Sample Tank 2.5 and Classik Studio Reverbs no problem in DP 7.12. Also Stylus RMX is working fine for me and I know others report Omnisphere and Trillian are A-OK as well.

[twistedtom]

I am using some Sonalksis plug-ins and Ezdrummer in DP7.12 and they work fine. Ezdrummer had some drag and drop problems in 6 that did get fixed. DP7.12 and SL is the best Dp yet as it is both solid and has lots of goodies in it.

[jloeb]

Am using DP 7.1.2 with Toontrack, Waves 7, PSP and Sonalksis on an 8-core 2009, OSX 10.6.3, 14GB RAM.

I have worked with DP7 in complex projects for - literally - weeks on end without being able to crash this configuration. On top of that, the convenience of workflow in 7 is unparalleled in my experience.

To me, that was easily worth the fee. That's in the "priceless" category.

The only "trick" is to make sure you're using the latest version of all your plugs. If that's the case, I cannot imagine you regretting this upgrade.

On a 64-bit capable Mac under 10.6.3/DP7.1.2, AU's that are 64-bit will run in 64-bit mode with no problems (see http://www.motu.com/techsupport/technot ... patibility" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ).