BLACKMAGIC INTENSITY PRO in DP

[ScottGlasgow]

THE BLACKMAGIC INTENSITY PRO card does NOT work in DP!

I just bought the Blackmagic Intensity Pro to output the quicktime video to an external monitor since my Canopus ADVC110 has been acting up and getting way out of sync for no reason.. The Blackmagic card works fine with ProTools, Logic and Cubase but it would seem not in Digital Performer. [/b]

[btate]

I have to agree!
It took 5 MONTHS for me to get this reply from a techlink to MOTU regarding Blackmagic support.

"Blackmagic video output cards are not supported for QuickTime video output by DP. I will submit this as a feature request to our development team."

[rodger1811]

This bugs me..... I understand that problems exist and I certainly understand the frustration, but what I don't understand is why handle it this way? You were a featured artist for MOTU before and I would think that you'd be able to get to someone at MOTU easier than the average guy. However, for SOME reason, you chose to air your problem in what I consider to be a MOST unprofessional way. If you had done your research adequately, you likely would have uncovered the fact that this wouldn't work with DP currently. Why don't you assume any responsibility?

Do you really think that throwing a hissy fit is appropriate? Could it possibly be that you're a prima donna and your expectation is that MOTU HAS to help you whenever and however you want? You seem like an intelligent guy so why would you have used DP all this time if it's "so behind the times"?

Finally, you have the freaking mordacity to threaten MOTU by suggesting that you're going to LOGIC and suggesting that "others are doing the same"? Did you forget what you told MOTU, "Logic has some nice features but just doesn't work for me the way DP does"? If you've attempted in earnest to try and resolve this issue directly with MOTU, why didn't you add that to your post? No...., instead you join this forum today and post this BS. You should be ashamed of yourself and if you're an example of what a "professional DP user is" then I don't ever want to be one!

[James Steele]

I feel dirty.

Yep another 1 post count guy who comes here only for the purpose of dumping on MOTU about a pet issue. It's too bad someone with his experience hadn't seen fit to participate sooner and in the context of sharing knowledge and experience with his fellow DP users. Instead, this forum is again "USED" very narrowly as a one-time bludgeoning instrument by someone with no interest in participating here prior or after this diatribe.

Am I saying that MOTU doesn't need to address this? No. I'm not saying that at all. But as the forum owner, I take a bit of offense to these selfish "drive-buy shootings" posted here.

[barreltone]

I've known about this issue for quite a long time. Why? This forum. Motunation - read before you write (and buy incompatible hardware).

[newrigel]

I feel dirty.

Yep another 1 post count guy who comes here only for the purpose of dumping on MOTU about a pet issue. It's too bad someone with his experience hadn't seen fit to participate sooner and in the context of sharing knowledge and experience with his fellow DP users. Instead, this forum is again "USED" very narrowly as a one-time bludgeoning instrument by someone with no interest in participating here prior or after this diatribe.

Am I saying that MOTU doesn't need to address this? No. I'm not saying that at all. But as the forum owner, I take a bit of offense to these selfish "drive-buy shootings" posted here.

IMHO... if someone is so experienced, why are they having issues and not knowing this before hand? Isn't a 30" (2560-by-1600 max resolution) ACD big enough? Your not going to get anything higher than that I don't care how big a monitor you use. Your just spotting audio to picture not editing motion graphics!

[ScottGlasgow]

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[Shooshie]

Geez, guys; cut him some slack. He's between a rock and a hard place. He's bought things that should be considered close to the industry standard if not on the mark, and we all know the feeling of having invested in something that suddenly slaps you in the face and says "sorry; no workee." He's already got software and hardware telling him to jump to Logic; let's not make the forum his final send-off that cuts ties from DP for good.

Scott; go to Logic and work a while. Be patient with MOTU and try to convince them that this is an urgent matter without raising your voice. (raise your voice, and they just won't hear you) Use this time to get to know Logic better and to know how to use it where it is strong, and how to switch a project to/from DP to utilize its strong points, too.

I set up and used Logic when Logic 8 Studio came out, and it was fun to learn, but pretty soon I was fed up with it for the way it takes the simplest tasks (in DP) and turns them into complicated brain teasers and carpal tunnel wrist smashers. I appreciate it for making very simple songs almost write themselves, but it simply doesn't work the way I do, so pretty soon my DAW-on-the-side lost its luster and I quit messing with it. DP is my home. Maybe you will find Logic to offer great utility and compatibility while you wait for the inevitable from MOTU.

Best of luck,

Shooshie

[ScottGlasgow]

Thanks Shooshie. Indeed, I have used Logic on two projects in the past. Cubase really interests me though. I hear Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard are using Cubase so maybe it's time for me to try it.

Bottom line if I may quote a composer friend "if your gear is not working, get other gear that does. This is about writing music first, not about what sequencer or computer platform your on!" Indeed--- we need stuff that works and we forget about it.

[shaman]

It is sad, but it is true. It would be very usefull to have video output to a second monitor, or support for video cards like Aja, Blackmagic.
In the same way, it would be very very usefull a shortcut like "go to previous/next frame" or even "move playhead to previous/next grid unit", or "movie follow nudge edition". All those features are helpful when you are working with video.
But every software has features that other softs don't, and viceversa.
I am an audio editor for television, and each audio facility where a I worked/work has a different DAW... I learned to love each one.

[Shooshie]

Oops… I posted before reading Scott's reply. I see now the card is returned, so no need to go to Logic. Well, that's an even better solution.

Shoosh

[James Steele]

@James - Sorry if you see it that way Mr Steele, truth is I just found it important to sign up under my real name before posting this important info of the serious lack of a function all other sequencing programs enjoy.

No, you're not sorry at all. You see MOTUNATION as a tool of value in bringing pressure to bear on MOTU to address an issue that is of personal importance to you.

I have been on this forum and participating for a long time under a different name. I am more than willing to participate and share my experience on this forum in the future-- but this was not just some "drive-by shooting" post.

Sure. And you couldn't participate under your real name thus far for what reason? Any way, I invite you to PM me with your other board name so I can verify your claim, because no other user has ever posted to this board from your IP address. Because, otherwise, I freely admit my irritation with people who register here solely to complain about a pet issue and then disappear.

It needed to be said and clear so other people would not fall into this problem and to send a message to MOTU that their program is lacking a serious function that all the other competitors have (yes, I have emailed and called them about this. There was no response or seeming interest). Maybe this forum will help by getting the word out there that we need this functionality.

I'm just confused why you ordered the card after doing a "ton of research"-- research that failed to produce a single confirmation that the card worked with DP?

Anyway, Scott... you made your point. So glad to help. I hope that MOTUNATION.COM was useful to you in bringing the pressure to bear on MOTU that you feel was needed.

[James Steele]

I hear Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard are using Cubase so maybe it's time for me to try it.

What more reason would one need?

[James Steele]

Geez, guys; cut him some slack. He's between a rock and a hard place. He's bought things that should be considered close to the industry standard if not on the mark, and we all know the feeling of having invested in something that suddenly slaps you in the face and says "sorry; no workee." He's already got software and hardware telling him to jump to Logic; let's not make the forum his final send-off that cuts ties from DP for good.

With all due respect, he bought something without getting any sort of confirmation that it would indeed work. So it wasn't really a slap in the face, sorry no workee deal. It was doubtful from before he placed his order. He did return it however, so that's fine.

As far as this being Scott's final send off from DP, I could honestly care less. I'm actually, as I've said all along here, NOT an employee for MOTU and I don't need to try and convince people to stay. Already, he mentioned that Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard use Cubase, so really doesn't that make it an open and shut case, right there?

Every platform has its drawbacks and positives. If someone assumes that life is all roses with another DAW, then by all means they should give it a whirl. Many people have more than one DAW anyway. But I personally think that if he wants to walk away from DP, that's his loss. It's not my job to convince him to stay, as I believe with the current stability and state of DP 7.12, Digital Performer will survive and thrive with our without him.

Perhaps I would have been more sympathetic to his post if:

1) It didn't begin with a post count of "1" which I've seen all to often, and...
2) It didn't contain the tired old threat of having to go to Logic or Cubase or whatever.

Frankly, as a user of the forum and not just the owner, I'm just a bit tired of the "I'm going to switch DAWs if..." type threats here. It's become tedious.

[ScottGlasgow]

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