Reason and Chunks
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Reason and Chunks
I'm working on a sequence that I have duplicated three times in one project file leaving me with four distinct sequence chunks.
Within each duplicated chunk (not the main, primary sequence) I've been having weird input issues with Reason -- it's sending instruments to places that I haven't routed them to.
I couldn't figure it out for the life of me, but then this morning it just dawned on me that maybe Reason gets confused when DP projects employ multiple duplicated sequences. Is that the case? Could it be constantly referencing the inputs I set in the primary sequence despite my working in a duplicated version of it?
Within each duplicated chunk (not the main, primary sequence) I've been having weird input issues with Reason -- it's sending instruments to places that I haven't routed them to.
I couldn't figure it out for the life of me, but then this morning it just dawned on me that maybe Reason gets confused when DP projects employ multiple duplicated sequences. Is that the case? Could it be constantly referencing the inputs I set in the primary sequence despite my working in a duplicated version of it?
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Re: Reason and Chunks
Sounds like your chunks are not in agreement on the bundle they share in the file. Could that be the case? Or are you talking like irrational destinations? It can appear pretty strange sometimes, but usually just straightening out the audio bundles window will fix that kind of thing.
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Re: Reason and Chunks
Hey Shooshie,
Everything seems to be okay in the bundles window.
I don't know what the deal is!
Everything seems to be okay in the bundles window.
I don't know what the deal is!
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Not sure what's causing your problem, but are you using V-Racks? With Reason & multiple chunks you should set up a V-Rack to pipe all your Reason outputs into DP.
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?????thracks wrote:Not sure what's causing your problem, but are you using V-Racks? With Reason & multiple chunks you should set up a V-Rack to pipe all your Reason outputs into DP.
I use Reason with DP & multiple sequences/chunks all the time, and I've never had to pipe the Reason outputs through a V-Rack.
You do, however, need to make sure that you have aux tracks (or audio tracks w/ input monitoring turned on) in your sequence routed from every Reason output you want to use - personally I use audio tracks, because then it's just a matter of hitting record to bounce all the Reason instruments down to audio.
[Re-reading the post] - I vaguely remember having a similar weird issue with Reason on a project recently. I think I just re-selected the inputs for the Reason tracks and it went away, never to surface again.
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Re: Reason and Chunks
Maybe part of the reason is that I'm doing all of the MIDI programming in DP?
I like to use the DP plug-in effects on Reason instruments, so I often end up doing it that way.
Perhaps it's better to do all of the MIDI programming in Reason and then just bus whatever I've done into an aux track in DP and add effects that way?
I like to use the DP plug-in effects on Reason instruments, so I often end up doing it that way.
Perhaps it's better to do all of the MIDI programming in Reason and then just bus whatever I've done into an aux track in DP and add effects that way?
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Re: Reason and Chunks
I often do MIDI programming in DP with Reason instruments using multiple sequences but I've never altered the routing in the new sequences.Movies wrote:Maybe part of the reason is that I'm doing all of the MIDI programming in DP?
I like to use the DP plug-in effects on Reason instruments, so I often end up doing it that way.
Perhaps it's better to do all of the MIDI programming in Reason and then just bus whatever I've done into an aux track in DP and add effects that way?
Is that what you're doing, changing the routing after you open a new sequence?
I've never had a problem in the new sequences but, as I said, the routing has stayed the same.
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I wouldn't recommend it. Personally I think it's much better to have all your MIDI in the one place (ie, DP) and just use Reason as a virtual synth rack. I don't use the Reason sequencer at all - after using DP it seems really crude.Movies wrote:Maybe part of the reason is that I'm doing all of the MIDI programming in DP?
I like to use the DP plug-in effects on Reason instruments, so I often end up doing it that way.
Perhaps it's better to do all of the MIDI programming in Reason and then just bus whatever I've done into an aux track in DP and add effects that way?
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Re: Reason and Chunks
I agree that the DP MIDI interface annihilates the Reason one.
And, yes, I absolutely changed the routing of things from sequence to sequence, which is, perhaps, a terrible idea?
And, yes, I absolutely changed the routing of things from sequence to sequence, which is, perhaps, a terrible idea?
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Re: Reason and Chunks
Movies wrote:I agree that the DP MIDI interface annihilates the Reason one.
And, yes, I absolutely changed the routing of things from sequence to sequence, which is, perhaps, a terrible idea?
I'll try doing that myself when I have a chance. I'm curious.
Maybe it is a terrible idea! Shouldn't be though.
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If you get used to it, MIDI in DP is really smoking. It's a very *deep* app.grouse wrote:I'll try doing that myself when I have a chance. I'm curious. Maybe it is a terrible idea! Shouldn't be though.Movies wrote:I agree that the DP MIDI interface annihilates the Reason one. And, yes, I absolutely changed the routing of things from sequence to sequence, which is, perhaps, a terrible idea?
Reason MIDI will compare very poorly.
I must admit Reason4, with tempo automation, has gone a little step farther than Reason3, but there's so much to bring it where DP7 is by now.
But Reason 4 rack as a virtual instrument rack is still a very great value. Some quite good sounds out of the box, and many third party ones. Very light on CPU and totally crash-proof.
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Re: Reason and Chunks
daniel.sneed wrote:If you get used to it, MIDI in DP is really smoking. It's a very *deep* app.
Reason MIDI will compare very poorly.
I must admit Reason4, with tempo automation, has gone a little step farther than Reason3, but there's so much to bring it where DP7 is by now.
But Reason 4 rack as a virtual instrument rack is still a very great value. Some quite good sounds out of the box, and many third party ones. Very light on CPU and totally crash-proof.
Yeah, I haven't used Reason's sequencer for many years, I was referring to changing the Reason routing between sequences in DP, which I have never had cause to do.
Anyway, Movies, I played around with the routing between sequences and it worked fine here.
I didn't get any weirdness, although my testing was limited enough.
However, (and there was a thread about this a while ago) I always find it a bit disconcerting when dealing with volume on the Reason devices. You seem to have to control that in DP, whereas every other parameter you can play around with on the Reason device itself.
The reason I mention that is that there could be something along those lines that's prompting DP to switch to a pre-conceived routing situation.
Does that make sense at all??
I know...not much help but maybe you could get to the bottom of it!
What version of DP are you on, btw?
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Re: Reason and Chunks
That's interesting! The volume situation never occurred to me.
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