Mach Five & Symphonic Instruments in DP 7

[Gone To Lunch]

What if any are the differences between M5 and SI in DP 7 ?

Firstly, I've never used a sampler or a virtual instrument before, so maybe I just dont have the concepts. Yet.

But it looks to me that the orchestral sounds bundled with M5 are the same as those that come with SI ? These sounds are very important to me musically, so I need to know should I buy both, or what ? Or what are the functional differences between them, ie can I meet my needs with only one of them.

FWIW, I do mainly Pop/easy listening, deliberately commercial, so I need the usual rhythm section and good strings/horns, mostly as (lush) backing.

thanks

[Frodo]

It is very likely that the orchestral sounds bundled with M5 are identical to SI. They may not representative of the totality of what SI has to offer, but

My suggestion would be to get M5 and to get started with the bundled sounds. You might want the complete SI later on as your needs expand, but at that same time there are LOTS of other wonderful orchestral VIs out there which could be had for more or less the same price as SI--- which I almost hesitate to suggest might be better in quality than SI.

I won't even attempt to list what other libraries are available, let alone attempt to recommend one. The list is long, and any given product has strong supporters and dissenters.

The nice thing about M5 is that it is a *universal* sampler. That means that the user has much more flexibility and expandability than they might have with SI alone. You could import sounds and samples from other sources into M5, but you could not do that with SI.

I would also point out that M5 comes with quite a bundle of sounds itself. If you had to get one instrument right now, I would start with M5 and spend time "auditioning" the sounds. From there, I would being to research other sound libraries that are compatible with M5. Beyond that point, there may be sounds and samples which might not be compatible with M5 but would come self-contained--- but by that point you haven't spent yourself silly and may feel a bit better about expanding and investing in new horizons.

[FMiguelez]

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The way I understand it:
Mach Five is essentially a Universal Sampler. You can do so many things with it.
Symphonic instruments is more like a Virtual Instrument where you can only run whatever sounds came with it.

Put it this way:
With Mach Five you can do whatever you can with SI PLUS a million other things
With SI you can mostly use... the SI instruments.

I'm JUST ABOUT to buy Mach Five myself. I just need to finish reading up on UVI workstation to make sure I REALLY need Mach Five. Maybe UVI will do what I want... and it's free
Doesn't look like UVI is as deep and full of features as M5, but I need to be sure... I must watch the pesos!

[waterstrum]

Mach Five is very cool, but is not a happy camper in DP7/Snow Leopard.
Same with SI, I fear.

I recently was working in a 5.13 project imported into 7.02 and these two VIs were a huge PITA.

I think it is the Ethno problem, but at least Ethno had the grace to just say no.
I advise great caution if you are using Mach Five in DP7/SL.

[FMiguelez]

Mach Five is very cool, but is not a happy camper in DP7/Snow Leopard.
Same with SI, I fear.

I recently was working in a 5.13 project imported into 7.02 and these two VIs were a huge PITA.

Could you be a little more specific, please? That is not at all what I have heard...

[Shooshie]

I can still use Mach Five and MSI in Snow Leopard/DP7, I think, but I have to freeze their tracks to audio before bouncing. Having said that, let me add that I have NOT used them in quite a while, so I may be thinking of Snow Leopard/DP6. But it seems like I was able to open them, load saved programs, and use them just as I did before, except for the part about the freezing of tracks.

Shooshie

PS: MSI has its own sound library. It did not come bundled with MachFive.2, but you can open it in M5.2 and use it as though it were a native sound set.