22/8 time?

[Frodo]

Oh look! A squirrel!

[philbrown]

Oh look! A squirrel!

Rocket J. Squirrel!
Man, I loved that show.
I still do a pretty decent Bullwinkle imitation.
Bullwinkle always kinda reminded me of Norton on the Honeymooners.

Good thing this thread is ancient 'cause this is OT city.

[MIDI Life Crisis]

The voice of Rocky (and Natasha and 100s of other characters) is June Foray, who is still very active. She comes to a lot of shows at the Academy of Motion Pictures, stands about 4' 9" and is the first one there if there is a food reception. LOL! Some squirrels never change.

If you don't know June by her face, look for the solid gold squirrel she wears around her neck. One of the nicest and most interesting people you can ever hope to meet. All high class and a little too much fun to hang with. She is close to 90 now. A legend and still beautiful.

[Frodo]

June Foray is amazing. There's some discrepancy as to whether she was born in 1917 or 1919, but she's in her 90s. Not only is she the voice of Rocky, she was Wilma Flintstone, Natasha, as well as Ursula in the original Jay Ward version of "George of the Jungle". Of course, this only scratches the surface not only for countless of other less famous voices she's done but for the multiple voices she's done on any one given TV show.

[leigh]

I loved Rocky & Bullwinkle, too. And my mother got all the adult puns, like "The Kerwood Derby", that I was too young to understand.

Back to odd meters.

A great and challenging piece by David N. Baker is "Fuup Blues". Everything you expect in the blues is annoyingly wrong in it because it's designed to Fu-You-Up. The phrase lengths and the harmonic rhythm are beautifully crafted to keep you paying attention.

**Leigh

[mhschmieder]

I missed this thread when it started, and haven't read through all of it, but ignored it at first thinking it was going to be a question about how to specify 22/8 as the time signature in DP.

I actually wrote a jazz piece in 22/8 earlier this year. I didn't consciously try to make it 22/8, but it just ended up that way. I ended up changing it to 11/4 in DP though, simply because the rest of the piece uses the quarter note as the basic pulse, and this made it easier for me to complete the jazz brush drum parts via some clever cut/paste.

As you probably know, there is a certain arbitrariness to time signatures, and the point of view that determines the choice can vary between players. Orchestral scores will sometimes use different time signatures for different sections, based on what seems to best align with the predominant rhythmic patterns and how that aids the players to phrase properly.

Just yesterday, I was playing a tape on the way home from ELP's Trilogy album, and had forgotten that part of one of the pieces is in 11/8. I think 11/8 is more common than 22/8, but 11/4 is more common than either one. The choice of using 22/8 as the time signature is really more one of communicating strong vs. weak downbeats. Players seeing the same manuscript in 11/8 might intuitively choose to introducce alternating strong/weak beats on their own. The notation helps though.