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I'm Back to 10.5.8 / DP7.0.1 for good

Post by Timeline »

I cannot get this to work right in SL and I don't think I will waste anymore chops on this or put up with loosing my favorite VI's, Hypersonic 2 & Virtual Guitar 2.
IMPO Snow Leopard is still a developing work in progress and who knows when it'll all come together.

DP7.01 seems fine though. I recommend if you don't have it, get it but stay away from Snow unless you have lots of time on your hands and smaller projects..

(Added 10-31-09: Apparently when loading DP 7 in Snow the MAS folder is NOT completely overwritten. Look for MAS AudioUnit Support.bundle 1.7.0. If it's not at this version, BIG trouble. Thanks to MOTU for the help.)

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Post by kassonica »

SL seems to work sometimes and not as well other times.

Turning off spotlight helps a bit.
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Post by Frodo »

kassonica wrote: Turning off spotlight helps a bit.
Still? :cry:

I've permanently killed Spotlight in Tiger and cannot get it working again. The upside is that DP 5.13 has never worked better!! The downside is that I can't find ANYTHING without booting from my Leopard drive and doing a search that way. Fortunately, this doesn't happen often.

Snow Leopard and disabling Spotlight? Grr. I was hoping we'd seen the end of that necessity.
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I use spotlight regularly unfortunately so I'll just stay put. It was a nice try. I like the idea of SL and really hope this gets sorted out. I remember they had to come up with several versions of Leopard before it worked right with all the older stuff too. I really see no reason right now why we are seeing things go boom like the VI's I mentioned. I would think that most of the real damage would come at a pure 64 but changeover so I think it's the 32 bit implementation that needs the massage. I also noticed Kontakt 2 exhibits buffer difficulties and both 2 and 3 cant find the library with a guiding leash to the files.
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Timeline wrote:.... I would think that most of the real damage would come at a pure 64 but changeover so I think it's the 32 bit implementation that needs the massage......
I think part of the conundrum is hanging on to the dregs of 32-bit while the world holds developers at gunpoint for 64-bit. It's a matter of timing. Developers are busy looking towards the horizon right now-- for good or for ill. I don't know that 32-bit will get much better than it already is...

...unless we somehow discover that 64-bit is still not ready for prime time, in which case a revisit to 32-bit will take on a whole new meaning.

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Re: I'm Back to OS 10.5.8 / DP7.0.1 for good

Post by SixStringGeek »

SL + DP701 is working great for me.
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Post by Frodo »

SixStringGeek wrote:SL + DP701 is working great for me.
That's because you are among The Blessed! :wink:

Seriously Six, it's always encouraging to hear that it's working well. I'm genuinely impressed with all the positive reports about "7".

I'm just gathering notes in advance of a few paradigm shifts in my setup that go beyond simple software upgrades. This is all good info. I now know what to be cautious of and what to look forward to.
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I just think its great to know that & 7.01 is working great in 10.5.8 and all my VI's are behaving. Whewwww! I even got my old G4 Powerbook working with 7.01 and upgraded the OS on that to 10.5.8 and it's working great. Shooshie helped me with a live setup and it's outstanding too.

We all have different uses for our stuff and most of mine hinge around big projects like Frodo. This is where the rubber meets the road generally and lesser, smaller projects would likely not see as many issues. One thing for sure though, the loads are much more predictable in 7.01 and pretty fast too, short of the Kontakt issues I mentioned, and as long as you have that 10.5.8 somewhere on one of your drives I thinks its safe to dick around now with SL and see what can be accomplished.

I would like to hear more from big project users here in this thread especially symphonic with VSL or equivalent uses.
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Post by Timeline »

I'm going to upgrade to Kontakt 4 and try it with SL.
May upgrade to EVO as well but there has been some complaints on this board somewhere about that.


Someone confirm this. I updated UAD 550 and now no controls work in snow leopard. Also, all the MW plugs are messed up too. Try extreme limiting in the multiband UAD limiter followed by MW limiter with peak limiting or even the Precision limiter from UA. This is really messed up!!! IF I GO BACK TO OS 10.5.8 THE SAME SESSION WORKS PERFECTLY.

Please someone confirm this with intel 8 core.
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Frodo wrote: I've permanently killed Spotlight in Tiger and cannot get it working again. The upside is that DP 5.13 has never worked better!! The downside is that I can't find ANYTHING without booting from my Leopard drive and doing a search that way. Fortunately, this doesn't happen often.

Snow Leopard and disabling Spotlight? Grr. I was hoping we'd seen the end of that necessity.
What issues disappear in 5.13 by turning off Spotlight?
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Frodo wrote:
kassonica wrote: Turning off spotlight helps a bit.
Still? :cry:

I've permanently killed Spotlight in Tiger and cannot get it working again. The upside is that DP 5.13 has never worked better!! The downside is that I can't find ANYTHING without booting from my Leopard drive and doing a search that way. Fortunately, this doesn't happen often.

Snow Leopard and disabling Spotlight? Grr. I was hoping we'd seen the end of that necessity.
Frodo,

Try using EasyFind to search... it's free from a reputable company...

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Post by zed »

I've got Spotlight working fine in Snow Leopard, and it can even find things now that I have enabled the searching of system files and since my files seem to have been indexed.

Not sure what things would improve if I disabled it, and I would certainly be lost without it, so I think I will just leave things as is. I'm not sure that disabling Spotlight needs to be one of your concerns Frodo.
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Post by rikp »

I have not made the upgrade to my main workstation. Using DP7 and all is GREAT. Why do it? I am in the middle of a huge film project so it may be a while (if ever) before I make the jump to SL.

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zed wrote:...I have enabled the searching of system files and since my files seem to have been indexed.
I can't seem to find any setting for this. Where do you set this? TIA.

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Re: I'm Back to OS 10.5.8 / DP7.0.1 for good

Post by zed »

Phil O wrote:
zed wrote:...I have enabled the searching of system files and since my files seem to have been indexed.
I can't seem to find any setting for this. Where do you set this? TIA.
I'm glad to share this info because I was so thrilled to have learned from KEVORKIAN not too long ago:
zed in another thread wrote:Just open any Finder window and type in a search term (in the usual area with the magnifying glass). Once you do that, a search bar will appear which allows you to choose WHERE and WHAT will be searched, and there will also be a + sign at the far right of that search bar.

If you click on the + icon, you will get another search bar which allows you to add further details. (i.e. X is Y). What you want to do is to pull down that first pull down window (which is probably defaulted to Kind), and you will probably not see System files in the list. So select "Other..." and scroll down the resulting window and check System files to add them to Finder searches. This will become your default and you won't have to do it for every search.

Now that this is done, any Finder search will look at System files as well. In that second Search bar you can limit your search to ONLY System files if you want to, and in that first Search bar, if you choose "File Name" instead of "Contents" you will reduce all the noise and only find the file you are looking for, if you know its name.

Hope that helps! Discovering these tricks has improved my Finder experience greatly!
Kevorkian's original post:
http://www.motunation.com/forum/viewtop ... 15#p312561

And the thread I just quoted from is here:
http://www.motunation.com/forum/viewtop ... ch#p319298
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