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Re: DP 7 Issues thread

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I hate to pipe up again here, but I continue to have similar issues that ironchef_marc is having. I thought updating my MOTU MIDI interface driver had fixed my stability problems :oops: , but I spoke too soon--I have continued to experience several crashes in DP7 every day.

Ironchef_marc, I notice you are using a 2408mkIII...I am too. I also ran DiskWarrior and it pointed out several corrupt plist files. I'm not sure if that has much to do with it, but maybe. I do know that I have experienced the crashes on 10.4.11, 10.5.8, 10.6.0, and 10.6.1 and a couple of different machines. Who knows if our issue is the same?. We do have several of the same plugs installed, and are both using the mkIII's.

At the moment, I am running DP with no third party plugs activated except for Vienna Ensemble Pro, which i really need for my current projects. Running DP that lean is great, it sure starts up fast! Just need to get to the bottom of the crashes.

Let us know if the system rebuild fixes your issues. :) I am a little skeptical, because DP7 is the only app showing this behavior on my system; everything else has been really solid.
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Re: DP 7 Issues thread

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Interesting about the mk3...I only do audio on that MAC so I can't compare to anything. I had a spotlight/ indexing problem most likely the result of those corrupted files so I'd like to think re-format and re-installing will get rid of stability issues. Yeah I too had problems with DP 6 on Tiger but that was pretty much universal. I'll report once I'm done.
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Re: DP 7 Issues thread

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ironchef, cool...

I forgot to mention that I have seen the program focus problem you mentioned for some time on DP6 and DP7. Just like you, occasionally I cannot get the DP menus to show up by clicking on DP's window when I am coming back to DP from another app. I have found that if I bring up another window with a keyboard shortcut (like quantize with cmd-0 for example), the menus will come back.

I have seen this behavior on 10.5.8 and 10.6.1.

What was your spotlight problem? Maybe I could see if I am seeing it too...you never know...
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Re: DP 7 Issues thread

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Last week I took my 2408 MKIII out (I was just using it as a lightpipe bridge and for CueMix), and since then I haven't had a single crash. It's not that the PCI card was doing anything blatantly funky, but I had a feeling it might be a bit off (that's the technical term for it). Part of my unease probably stems from the fact that the Snow Leopard "compatible" version of the PCI-424 software installed a Tiger .plist that bricked my computer.
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Re: DP 7 Issues thread

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dinobass wrote:Last week I took my 2408 MKIII out (I was just using it as a lightpipe bridge and for CueMix), and since then I haven't had a single crash.
So dinobass, did you remove the PCIe card altogether or just disconnect your 2408?
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Re: DP 7 Issues thread

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Took the card out, yes
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Re: DP 7 Issues thread

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The spotlight problem I had: the indexing would get stuck at say 6 hours left with progressing further. I tried to fix it using Spotless but could not so I had to turn it off.
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Re: DP 7 Issues thread

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dinobass wrote:Took the card out, yes
Well, I took out my 424 card this morning and used built-in audio, and unfortunately DP is still crashing. :( So at least in my case, it doesn't seem to have anything to do with the 2408mk3's or 424 card.

It will be interesting to see how Ironchef's rebuild goes.
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Re: DP 7 Issues thread

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If crashes end up being the fault of a PCI424 or 2408 on a given system, I would think it would have to be because the unit in question is defective. PCI424/2408mk3 work great over here.

I'm sure you addressed this already, but are you on the newest drivers?
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Re: DP 7 Issues thread

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Curious; have you used the Guest login account? Do you have some shared folders under File Sharing? This is a long thread, so I haven't gone back to check; forgive me if we've already gone over this. Have you done the following?

- turned off file sharing,
- deleted shared folders from the list in the Sharing Prefs,
- turned file sharing back on,
– Logged out
- Logged in
- Restarted DP

Can't hurt to try these ideas. Snow Leopard has a rare but dastardly bug involving guest accounts. Basically, delete any guest accounts, and don't create any new ones until Apple comes up with a fix. Switching to a guest account and back can cause massive data loss. Many of the bugs seem to revolve around file sharing and guest accounts.

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Re: DP 7 Issues thread

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Kubi wrote: I'm sure you addressed this already, but are you on the newest drivers?
Hey Kubi :) , yes I am running the latest drivers for the 424 and for everything else on my system. By now, I have checked driver versions many times over and have re-installed most of them just in case. *shrug*
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Re: DP 7 Issues thread

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Shooshie wrote:Curious; have you used the Guest login account? Do you have some shared folders under File Sharing? This is a long thread, so I haven't gone back to check; forgive me if we've already gone over this. Have you done the following?

- turned off file sharing,
- deleted shared folders from the list in the Sharing Prefs,
- turned file sharing back on,
– Logged out
- Logged in
- Restarted DP
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Thanks for the suggestions, Shooshie. I did read a thread on Apple's boards about the file sharing issue. Seems that is more of an OS issue, where people are getting logged out altogether without warning. Thankfully, I haven't seen that problem yet. But a few minutes ago I went ahead and turned file sharing off and deleted the existing shares. Unfortunately, DP crashed with the usual crash report a few minutes later.

And I always disable the guest account. I double checked, just to be sure.

Gotta narrow this down eventually!
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Re: DP 7 Issues thread

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Want to add that Snow removed my Jam 6 and Toast compatibility. Damn that sucks!
Would be nice to see a list of commonly used audio apps that are now orphaned starting with these.
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Re: DP 7 Issues thread

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Shooshie wrote:Curious; have you used the Guest login account? Do you have some shared folders under File Sharing? This is a long thread, so I haven't gone back to check; forgive me if we've already gone over this. Have you done the following?

- turned off file sharing,
- deleted shared folders from the list in the Sharing Prefs,
- turned file sharing back on,
– Logged out
- Logged in
- Restarted DP
Can't hurt to try these ideas. Snow Leopard has a rare but dastardly bug involving guest accounts. Basically, delete any guest accounts, and don't create any new ones until Apple comes up with a fix. Switching to a guest account and back can cause massive data loss. Many of the bugs seem to revolve around file sharing and guest accounts.

On Ars Technica they say this SL bug occurs when you have a guest account in Leopard and then upgrade to SL. Subsequently, when you log into a guest account on the updated computer and then log back out, the user account gets deleted along with the guest account. Probably best just to not use guest accounts at all until the fix, though.
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Another bug

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Temporay grouping of faders using double tap "w" does not grab all faders. So it seems that along with the faders not updating the numerical display of volume there are definitely some issues with the mixing board in DP7.
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