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kassonica wrote:
+1 BTW Damn banana boat, lost at sea again
I've come to the conclusion that we've done banana boats a great disservice.
There's no question that if a banana boat had picked up a few copies of DP from LA the day after it was released in the US, those intrepid seamen would have been able to make their way across the Pacific stopping at all those little islands, avoiding tsunamis, picking up bananas and pineapples and delivering them to Sydney faster than any Boeing 747 that MOTU might use to export their products.
It's really an outrage in 2009. I don't know whether the fault lies with Major Music or MOTU, but if, between them, they can't organise a small carton of wholesale packs to get on an overnight plane, then something is seriously wrong. It's a 12-hour flight from LAX to Brisbane.
They obviously couldn't organise a dog fight at a drovers' camp!
Time for a new importer for Australia. From every conversation I've had with MM, it's quite obvious they know little to nothing about DP, and even seemed quite dismissive.
EvilElfBoy wrote:My first impressions of this program is just WOW! Now mind you, I haven't seen or touched DP in many years (I think since DP3 or something) It truly is kind of in a class or it's own, yet it doesn't have to much of a learning curve if you know a bit about DAWS.
It's very versatile and very powerful for making music easy, very non linear when using sequence chunk and putting them into a song structure. I love how you can just jump to a different mix in the same project. Clippings is just a phenomenal idea. Can't wait to put that into action!
The MW Eq is sick! Very impressive. The compressors aren't to shabby! I ended up using proverb and thats a pretty straight forward converb. Not a super huge fan of the IRs, but I have been spoiled by Acousticas.
The list can go on for awhile, but I just wanted to say that it has been very stable on my macbook pro, Took a pretty decent track count session and just went to town on a mix, just for fun to explore it a bit.
It's a tough call on which program to use for music creation at this point because I have every single DAW under the sun now.
I just saw this video of an insane sonar mix video with quicktime, all running 64 bit with the 32 bit bridges, and wow! 140 track count session with no lag at all doing anything! I can't wait to be full 64 bit on my macs! I'm sure DP7 and Cubase will be sick at 64 bit.
It's not that tough... go ahead say it... DP7 is the best. I have Logic and use Cue base for a client... no contest... Logic 9 is still a crash fest. I don't use pro tools. Too much buck per track ratio. It made sense when macs were unable to keep up. Now I can cut any VI including BFD 2 with a full rhythm section with no latency using the Apogee ensemble and DP7.
The comp tool, new mixer, STABILITY, inline eq, stability, new look, channel strip, stability. Did I mention that DP7 is stable?
Shooshie called it. He said DP7 was going to be great. Good call dude. Lets just hope they don't mess it up with 7.1
waxman
DP9.5, Macbook Pro (2018) Mojave, Slate VMS mic, Everything Bundle, Dual Raven MTI 2, Apollo Twin Quad, UAD Arrow, UAD Satellite Octo Tbolt and all the UAD plugs, NI Komplete 11 Ultimate & Arturia V Collection 6, Maschine Studio MK3 Hardware, NI Komplete Kontrol 61s MK 2, Spectrasonics Ominisphere, Superior Drummer, BFD3, Ozone 7, Altiverb, Sound Toys, Waves, Final Cut X. PT 11.
jlaudon wrote:How about our Nordic friends? E-Snobben, or Radio Gal, your are not all the way up there too close to Svalbard, are you?
I live in Stockholm and when DP6 came out I was one of the first on this board to get my copy. Unfortunately I can't afford upgrding to DP7 right now... There's a distributor here (I think, they do a bad job at promoting DP though) but I've always ordered my upgrades directly from MOTU. Surely that's possible even if you live in Australia too, no?
DP6 has been super solid for me ever since it first came out so I'll get along with it til I can get DP7...
Cheers,
/DZ
Hackintosh 6-Core 3.7ghz/32gb ram, macOS Mojave
Hardware: Apollo 8, Apollo 8p, Apollo Twin mkII, MOTU 828mk3 & Original 828 | UA LA-610 | Vanguard V13 Tube Mic | MindPrint En-Voice | Genelec M040AM | Gretsch Guitars & Drums
Software: DP8 | FCPX | Logic Pro X | Play
| EWQL Gypsy, Choirs, Orchestra Gold, VoP | EZDrummer w/ Twizted Kit | Action Strings
EvilElfBoy wrote:
...I just saw this video of an insane sonar mix video with quicktime, all running 64 bit with the 32 bit bridges, and wow! 140 track count session with no lag at all doing anything! I can't wait to be full 64 bit on my macs! I'm sure DP7 and Cubase will be sick at 64 bit.
Makes me wonder how Digidesign is going to convince people to keep shelling out $10k for superfluous ProTools HD hardware cards.
kassonica wrote:
+1 BTW Damn banana boat, lost at sea again
I've come to the conclusion that we've done banana boats a great disservice.
There's no question that if a banana boat had picked up a few copies of DP from LA the day after it was released in the US, those intrepid seamen would have been able to make their way across the Pacific stopping at all those little islands, avoiding tsunamis, picking up bananas and pineapples and delivering them to Sydney faster than any Boeing 747 that MOTU might use to export their products.
It's really an outrage in 2009. I don't know whether the fault lies with Major Music or MOTU, but if, between them, they can't organise a small carton of wholesale packs to get on an overnight plane, then something is seriously wrong. It's a 12-hour flight from LAX to Brisbane.
They obviously couldn't organise a dog fight at a drovers' camp!
Time for a new importer for Australia. From every conversation I've had with MM, it's quite obvious they know little to nothing about DP, and even seemed quite dismissive.
MOTU, take note.
Needs repeating
Creativity, some digital stuff and analogue things that go boom. crackle, bits of wood with strings on them that go twang
FMiguelez wrote:How about our Nordic friends? E-Snobben, or Radio Gal, your are not all the way up there too close to Svalbard, are you?
I live in Stockholm and when DP6 came out I was one of the first on this board to get my copy. Unfortunately I can't afford upgrding to DP7 right now... There's a distributor here (I think, they do a bad job at promoting DP though) but I've always ordered my upgrades directly from MOTU. Surely that's possible even if you live in Australia too, no?
DP6 has been super solid for me ever since it first came out so I'll get along with it til I can get DP7...
Cheers,
/DZ
FMiguelez, I've totally missed your post. It's quite a distance to Svalbard from here.
I also use to order directly from MOTU, fairly fast and quite reliable delivery. Buying from a retail store here in Sweden seems like a detour.
waxman wrote:Shooshie called it. He said DP7 was going to be great. Good call dude. Lets just hope they don't mess it up with 7.1
Arggghh! Don't say that! Now I'm knocking on wood, throwing salt over my shoulder, looking for rosary beads (I'm not even of that brand of superstition), and tossing bones and tea leaves. Please, MOTU... make DP 7.1 as good as or better than DP7. Please. That's all I ask. I'll even pay you another $200 if it's guaranteed to be better than DP7. (but nobody else will, I promise you )
Shooshie
|l|OS X 10.12.6 |l| DP 10.0|l|2.4 GHz 12-Core MacPro Mid-2012|l|40GB RAM|l|Mach5.3|l|Waves 9.x|l|Altiverb|l|Ivory 2 New York Steinway |l|Wallander WIVI 2.30 Winds, Brass, Saxes|l|Garritan Aria|l|VSL 5.3.1 and VSL Pro 2.3.1 |l|Yamaha WX-5 MIDI Wind Controller|l|Roland FC-300|l|
FMiguelez wrote:How about our Nordic friends? E-Snobben, or Radio Gal, your are not all the way up there too close to Svalbard, are you?
I live in Stockholm and when DP6 came out I was one of the first on this board to get my copy. Unfortunately I can't afford upgrding to DP7 right now... There's a distributor here (I think, they do a bad job at promoting DP though) but I've always ordered my upgrades directly from MOTU. Surely that's possible even if you live in Australia too, no?
DP6 has been super solid for me ever since it first came out so I'll get along with it til I can get DP7...
Cheers,
/DZ
FMiguelez, I've totally missed your post. It's quite a distance to Svalbard from here.
I also use to order directly from MOTU, fairly fast and quite reliable delivery. Buying from a retail store here in Sweden seems like a detour.
I ordered straight from motu. No hassles it took five days (I think). The only set back was the cost of shipping... USD 79.OO + customs and tax (around 240 SEK) or so.
I also heard that Sweden MIDI Music has dropped motu due to economics (don't quote me on that though), and Zima has take over as a distributor.
/B
Macmini M1 | Motu 828mk3 x 1 | 2 x Motu M64 & SSL XLogic Alpha-Link MADI AX | 2 x Motu MTP AV | OSX 12.6.x | DP 11.x | Mach5 3.x.x | 2xiLok | 2xUAD quad dsp card | Altiverb 7.x | SoundToys | Nomad factory | PSP | Arturia V-collection | Korg VI's |
and loads n' loads n' loads n' loads n' loads o' stuff.
Sorry if this repeats anything previously said, but I'm a few days into DP7 (waited until first 7.01 patch was out) and happily found these gripes from DP6 fixed:
All Open/Save dialog boxes now remember their last window size, position, & column widths.
All sidebar panes in the Consolidated Window now have consistent click-through behaviors (i.e. clicking the body of any pane brings background window to foreground).
Double-clicking to edit and exit the “Conductor” track in Graphic Editor is fixed.
More compatible with SampleTank (v2.5.3). Don't need to leave VI window open anymore.
Fully compatible with Omnisphere (v1.0.4g). No more having to freeze or print the audio first. (Yay!)
A few bugs still exist - support for horizontal scrolling with Mighty/Magic Mouse is still inconsistent, most glaringly in the Conductor Graphic Editor window as well as the lefthand portion of the main Tracks window. And Soundbites are still limited to way outdated 31 character edit limit.
Otherwise, I'm extremely relieved that DP7 brought about these fixes (instead of introducing new bugs like the DP6 transition did), and I can concentrate on enjoying the new features this time around!
Mac Pro 2xQuad Core, 20Gb RAM, OS 10.5, DP 7, MOTU 2408mkII/PCI-424
balord wrote:[*]More compatible with SampleTank (v2.5.3). Don't need to leave VI window open anymore.[/*]
I should be getting DP7 this afternoon, and will probably understand this then, but I am curious by what you mean by this. SampleTank has been very compatible with every version of DP for me (except for some flakey behavior around the time of DP4.6), and I haven't needed to leave the VI window open. Were you experiencing some kind of a bug or something which caused SampleTank to be unresponsive or hang DP?
Glad to hear you're happy and that more bugs and incompatibilities have been addressed.
Yeah, SampleTank behaved fairly well... it just for some reason had to always be open.
My typical setup routes ST's internal output 1-2 to my DP mains on the Instrument channel and ST output pairs 3-32 route to the inputs of 15 additional DP auxes. I have alot of automation and further EFX inserts on those Aux channels.
DP6 was able to include all of this in a Bounce without printing the audio, but sometimes notes wouldn't play or patches wouldn't load right away. Possibly it was only right after opening a project, I can't say now exactly, but opening the ST window fixed it, so I basically learned to always do that. Even then, notes would stick causing the polyphony would fill up. "Stop Sounding MIDI Notes" didn't unstick the notes -- I would have to dial down the "poly" value inside of ST to 1 to silence it, then dial it back up.
My projects almost always have instances of Stylus RMX, Virtual Guitarist 2, and a ton of Reason audio-ins over Rewire, plus I use ChannelStrip, Waves Gold Native, and Altiverb. Maybe there was some conflict - I never tested it.
I don't use V-Racks, and I don't run ST in Real-Time Mode. My project preferences are set to "Pre-gen mode when possible".
As I went into more detail on my blog post, I would get a massive delay before a bounce involving ST. I think that DP's pre-rendering only happens when the plugin windows are closed, so whatever kept me from having the window closed prolly caused that delay when it was open. DP6 would sit for up to 5 minutes thinking before the Bounce progress meter would appear. Activity Monitor showed one of my 8 cores absolutely hammered at 100% the whole time. I wrote to IK and they said they'd never seen this before. Lucky me! :) (No response yet from MOTU.)
Part of the reason I wrote my DP7 findings here, too, was that I hadn't seen anyone else mention this SampleTank issue. I can't believe I'd be the only one, but you never know...
Fingers-crossed tho, it's no longer an issue in DP7.
Mac Pro 2xQuad Core, 20Gb RAM, OS 10.5, DP 7, MOTU 2408mkII/PCI-424
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