5.13 and Snow Leopard

[c0mp0ser]

What on earth could be the big motive to move to Snow Leopard anyway? Just because it's out?
It's just a platform, the apps still have to catch up. But even at that, I really have my doubts that
64-bit will make music sound significantly better. People with "bat ears" might be able to tell,
but in a 128kbps mp3 world, I don't think 64-bit will make any difference in sound. In fact, I'd like to see someone post an a/b comparison between two identical project mixes, one done in 32-bit, and one done in
64-bit.

64-bit primarily addresses speed issues, not necessarily sound quality. Your mic preamps and converters
are where the rubber meets the road in that regard. Actually, the only things that make any sound in your
studio are your monitors.

Certainly, there would be NO benefit of using DP 5.13 in Snow Leopard.

Frankly, I have no interest in moving to Snow Leopard at the moment. Big yawn for me.

David, some people are interested in Snow Leopard for the improvements under the hood, especially how it makes better use of machines with multiple cores. Anything to make the machine run more efficient and run giant orchestral templates in Bidule or some other external host, I'm all for that and there may be benefit there.

I don't think anyone would say that "64-bit" would sound any better than "32-bit". It's just about loading and running more STUFF.

Mike

[Shooshie]

Also, you might want to look at a thread I started over in the "Theoretical Discussions" forum: Quicktime in Snow Leopard.

What is not apparent to most is that we are sitting on top of a paradigm shift in video/audio/graphics media creation, playback, and display in personal computers. It's been going on behind the scenes for a while, but only in Snow Leopard does it present its face for all to see: Quicktime X.

Quicktime X is to Quicktime 7 as OSX is to OS9.

You might call QT 7 "Quicktime Classic." So, Quicktime Classic will still be there to boot up in the classic layer of media handling, but the new media handler, QT-Kit, is the future of media on the Mac. This means that over time every application that works in graphics, video or audio will have to be rewritten to handle the new technology, and from what I can tell it looks like this is going to be a very good thing, but it will take time before it's all switched over. Even Final Cut Pro is still Quicktime "Classic" based. Once it is rewritten for QT-Kit (and once QT-Kit is developed to handle the tasks of Final Cut Pro), video production and editing will enter a new age on the Mac.

It's painfully slow, this decade of OS X. It was in October, 2000 when we got a glimpse of the future: the Public Beta of OSX. Right then and there, armed with the hundreds of technical articles on the subject, it was clear we were in for a difficult and long transition period, but that when we emerge from it the Mac will be amazingly different and better than the one we watched grow from its humble roots (but revolutionary for 1984).

Snow Leopard is the most advanced OS yet. The changes are mostly under the hood. Understanding those changes is the key to seeing where we will be heading on this long journey with Apple, not to mention MOTU. The paradigms they are a-shifting.

Shooshie

[zed]

Speaking of "improvements under the hood" can anyone tell me please if folder views are automatically remembered in Snow Leopard?

That change in Finder behavior with the release of Leopard still irks me every single day when I maneuver through my files and folders.

[waterstrum]

Speaking of "improvements under the hood" can anyone tell me please if folder views are automatically remembered in Snow Leopard?

That change in Finder behavior with the release of Leopard still irks me every single day when I maneuver through my files and folders.

I heartily agree!
Is there a way to do that?
Some preference that we might have missed...
I set up the perfect view and on the next folder opening, it is gone.
This should be pretty basic stuff.

[Kaczinski]

Happily reporting : DP 5.13 runs fine on my machine und SL:
Mac Pro, 2x 2ghz double core, Motu traveller, Altiverb6, Trakplug, MAch2, RMX Stylus, Melodyne-plug in and Studio versions, Live 7.015, Audiofinder,
All run fine - Powercore does not play ball. I had to delete the extension for Powercore, otherwise the screen would freeze.
So waiting for TC to release updated drivers....

[Kaczinski]

Brief update:

After a quick visit to the TC - Powercore forum followed the instructions
to remove the 64bit kernel extension of Powercore ( contained within the package of the extension ) I can run even Powercore PCIe on my Intelmac within DP 5.13 ! Caution: Older projects with lots of instances create a kernel panic. If I load a project without any P.C. plugins, I can then gradually load the usual number and all is fine. Editing, mixing, saving etc.
So , its not perfect, but it runs.