Audio files in wrong location

[Phil O]

I think someone here had a similar problem a while ago, but I couldn't find the post.

I had 5 songs to record all with the same tracks, so I set up the first one (Last Waltz) and then saved it as a template named "Dave B." For subsequent songs (new project for each song) I simply went to New>Dave B. All seemed to go well, but at the end of the project, I found that ALL of the audio files were in the Last Waltz Project's audio folder. All of the other project audio folders were empty. Has anyone else seen this? Do you know how to prevent it? I've worked this way for years and this is the first time this has happened...Thanks.

Phil

[mhschmieder]

Phil,

Just in case this is related to audio format (considering some of them are new options and may have some kinks), which format are you using in this case?

I can easily see how this problem might manifest itself only for BWAV, which seems flakey at times but is otherwise by far my preferred format moving forward. Some of the inconsistencies I see are in a similar category and not directly or consistently reproducible.

[FMiguelez]

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It sounds like, for some reason, the file location in the window that you get when you press shift-A got messed up.
If you open that window in the other projects, can you see that their file location path was changed to the Last Waltz audio folder?

If so, the template thing somehow screwed that up for you.
I do remember that recent thread you mean. Hopefully this is not some kind of bug

[Phil O]

Phil,

Just in case this is related to audio format (considering some of them are new options and may have some kinks), which format are you using in this case?

I can easily see how this problem might manifest itself only for BWAV, which seems flakey at times but is otherwise by far my preferred format moving forward. Some of the inconsistencies I see are in a similar category and not directly or consistently reproducible.

Indeed, I'm using BWAV. I hadn't even considered that a problem. Things that make you go, "hmmm."

[Phil O]

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It sounds like, for some reason, the file location in the window that you get when you press shift-A got messed up.
If you open that window in the other projects, can you see that the path was changed to the Last Waltz audio folder?

shift-A? Shift-A does nothing here, and I can't find it in my command set. Which window should that open?

Phil

[FMiguelez]

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Woops. That must be my own command

I mean the Audio Monitor window. I know there's a way to see the path, and change it. I think you have to double click under the Take File column. I haven't done it in a while, but I sure it's there.

The mini menu reads "Set Take Folder".

Mind that I'm talking about DP 4.61, but newer versions must have it there too.

[Phil O]

Ahaa! Thank you. They are indeed set to have all inputs record to "Last Waltz Project/Audio Files." I didn't even know about this item in the Audio Monitor mini menu as I never use the Audio Monitor window. Now the question is, "Why?"!!

Now that I know what to look for, I was able to find the right section in the manual. The manual says the default take folder is the Audio Files folder in the current Project folder. (no mention of changing the default) So how does the default get changed?

Edit:
The manual also says this: "If you like, you can save takefile locations in your new template file using the Save as Template command." Need to do some experimenting.

Thanks for the info!

Phil

[FMiguelez]

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I'm glad I could help a bit, my friend

In DP 4.61, it works as it should. I couldn't recreate your issue. By what you describe, it seems DP 6.X is forgetting to set the right path for the right session when using templates

[Tim]

Strange: I had the same thing happen to me recently, following the same procedure I have for years (I think).

BTW: Shift-A is a stock DP key command.

[EMRR]

http://www.motunation.com/forum/viewtop ... =1&t=35428

I consider it a bug in DP6; it's a new behavior that doesn't follow what the manual states.

[Mountainfeverstudios]

I think it was my post earlier but I never got a response. I use 3 glyph drives. I record to Drive 1 and Backup to Drive 3. Sometimes the audio of the project is stored in some hidden place on Drive 2. I didn't tell it to put it there, and when you look at the directory of drive 2 it doesn't show up. When you open the soundbite window of the project it tells you that the audio files reside on Drive 2. I'l do this Shift-A thing and see what I find out.

Thanks!!

[Phil O]

Well, I tried several different things and I wasn't able to duplicate the problem with a new template. I tried creating a new project (with audio tracks in place) and saving it as a template three ways (using 24 bit aiff as project format.)
1. With tracks in place, but no input designated.
2. With tracks in place, with input designations, but not record enabled.
3. With tracks in place, with input designations and record enabled.
For #3 I tried saving a template before and after recording material on the tracks.
Creating a new project from the above templates all have the new project Audio File folder as the default (as it should be.)

Then I tried the above using BWAV as the project format. No change.

Next I tried creating a new project from the infamous Dave B. template in two locations - the same volume as "Last Waltz Project" and a different volume. Both new projects show a take file location in the original "Last Waltz" folder. Last of all I tried creating a new project from the Dave B. template after removing the "Last Waltz Project" from the HD and all worked as it should.

So the question remains, what was different about the Dave B. template that caused it to save "Last Waltz Project/Audio Files" as the default take folder? Dunno.

Phil

[Phil O]

BTW: Shift-A is a stock DP key command.

Yeah, at some point I probably deleted it cause I might have used Shift-A as a macro for something. I do that a lot.

[penna]

I was having the same problem and thought I'd share my experience with DP 4.52.

When I start a project, I first create a song-named Project folder ("Rock Song Project" for example) and inside it I create an Audio Files folder. Then I open a DP file with no actual MIDI or audio data (just a bunch of tracks) which I use as a template (though I haven't saved it as a true "template"). Before I record anything into it, I "Save As", move the location to inside the Project folder I just created, and save it with the name of the song ("Rock Song"). You would think that audio files I record in this project would be placed in it's Audio Files folder, but it keeps putting them in the Audio Files folder of the first project I ever recorded on this computer.

After reading these posts, I opened the Audio Monitor window (Shift + A) and could see by double-clicking under the Take Folder column heading next to each audio input channel that the Take Folder for each input was indeed the first project's Audio Files folder. The mini menu "Set Take Folder" was greyed out, however I was able to open it by double-clicking the box inbetween the level meter and the Take Folder column, next to each audio input channel.

I imagine I will have to do this every time I start a new project? Seems like there should be an easier way, like someplace in Preferences where you can select "Store audio files in their project's Audio Files folder" or specify another location. Shame because I never had to do this in DP3!

[NazRat]

I had a similar problem with the new version of AudioDesk when recording a series of live performances. I created new projects from a template and even though it created a new project folder for each performance, it placed all the audio files in the audio folder where the template was created. I had done this show before with the 2.x version of AudioDesk and never had a problem.