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FYI: Tiger Troubles Even For The Expert!

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Mac advocate and authority Bob LeVitus writes a column that's published every Tuesday in The Houston Chronicle, and I thought his experiences might be of interest to DP users contemplating the move to Tiger.

It's entitled "Installing Tiger likely to leave you growling".

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/tech/weekly/3185073
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Re: FYI: Tiger Troubles Even For The Expert!

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Tiger and DP (and all of my applications btw, including VIs) have been running flawlessly from day 1 for me. I guess it's working great for some people and not so great for others, as usual with major OS upgrades. For those who are not sure yet, they can always install Tiger on a separate partition, see how it goes and then make their final decision.

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Re: FYI: Tiger Troubles Even For The Expert!

Post by glmusic »

No problems with Tiger and DP 4.52 here. The only problems I've had are with Mail 2.0 and they have been minor ones. Ocassionaly my MIO 2882 driver will fail to load on startup, but I just deleted the audio/MIDI plist and will see if that solves the issue. For the most part, it has been a painless upgrade and the speed improvements with graphics and program launching are noticible. I don't think that quartz 2D extreme has been enabled yet, but that should take it to a new level when finished.
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Re: FYI: Tiger Troubles Even For The Expert!

Post by wylie »

Thats a pretty lame article.

Bob LeVitus doesn't mention what apps he's having problems with, did he go ahead and install Tiger without checking for compatibility?
Of course hes going to have problems.
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Re: FYI: Tiger Troubles Even For The Expert!

Post by pinky »

Updated to 10.4.1 today and no issues whatsoever (except having to reinstall the M-Audio drivers).

Works on my G4 tower, MINI, and iBook.

The funny thing about 'waiting for the OS to become stable in a later edition' is this: it doesn't change the fact that you might or might not have problems, it only delays addressing the problems that might be inherent in your system to begin with.

True, software companies have to catch up, but in this instance, there are very few who have not ALREADY made the jump. At least on the software I am running, ther are no updates to wait for. They are all in place and working great.

Then again, there are still folks using Windoze, so to each his own.
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Re: FYI: Tiger Troubles Even For The Expert!

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Damn..I am getting Safari crashes and CPU spikes on large programs!
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Re: FYI: Tiger Troubles Even For The Expert!

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UAD-1 won't work with Tiger, so I'm waiting. Can't do without the LA-2A and 1176!
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I was running 10.4.1 on my brand new powerbook, but I reinstalled 10.3.9. I kept getting the dreaded cpu spikes that caused audio dropouts. It ruined one too many good takes as I was recording. It works like a charm with panther. The only thing I miss is the new search tool, spotlight I think it's called. Really slick, found stuff before I typed it all in. I'll wait for them to fix it or just stay with panther, it works great for me.
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Re: FYI: Tiger Troubles Even For The Expert!

Post by greymantle »

Nice to see this forum back, well done blokes!

Been using and growing with Apple since '79.

One always hears the "new OS" dangers being lamented.

It's problematic and inaccurate to make claims about new OS experiences with one or two machines. Who knows what HFS mess it is being installed upon. Pilot error is also a factor.

We are fortunate to have garden of Macs from 72, 75, 8100's, eMacs, iMacs, G5 monoliths, duals, books... in all aspects of our business, using most every programme ever written for Macs. General business and accounting, video, music and print, DVD and CD production... We always get the new OS and updating is major open-heart surgery.

We backup and zero-out the drives and do pristine clean installs from the ground up. This may be (seem like) a lot of work, but experience has taught that, in the long run... you know.

We have had, over the years, nowhere near the kind of pain we hear about. Mac kicks ass.

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We backup and zero-out the drives and do pristine clean installs from the ground up. This may be (seem like) a lot of work, but experience has taught that, in the long run... you know.
May be a sophomoric question, but what does "zero out" mean exactly ...complete erasure?

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Re: FYI: Tiger Troubles Even For The Expert!

Post by greymantle »

Yes, on the install disks, in disk first aid, in the disk utilities.

Reformat. low level format.

Depending on the specific OS install disks (Tiger is usually one DVD) there is an option to write 0's on the disk before the install (Tiger will do this up to 35 times, overkill, mostly a security measure).

Large drives can take quite a long time: 250 gig, a few hours.

But! New directory and volume structure, tracks and sectors, all zeros. No errant file addresses.

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Re: FYI: Tiger Troubles Even For The Expert!

Post by thindave »

I consider Bob more an uber-dork than an expert, really...

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