Guitar (metal) chirp

[dickhauser]

This is a url for a guitar intro to a metal song (my son in law plays bass). He thinks the "chirp" is wrong. The result of over processing or something. I don't know. Could be a product of the guitar settings, I guess. I'd love to hear the opinion of those of you who have the time to give a listen:

http://www.dickhauser.name/Music/Sample ... _intro.aif

It takes a bit of time to load (2.2 meg) because I'm a real neophyte at HTML. Thanks for your indulgence.

[Dan Walsh]

The guitar sounds cool to me. I'm not hearin' the chirp he's talkin' about I listened to this in my studio thru my Tannoy's. Unless of course I'm misunderstanding the meaning of chirp. But ultimatly that guitar riff sounds cool..............

[donreynolds]

It's the pick making the chirp. You might want to isolate that frequency and notch it down a bit.

[dickhauser]

It's the pick making the chirp. You might want to isolate that frequency and notch it down a bit.

Thanks, Don, I would have guessed that. I'd rather they record it again, but there's some understandable reluctance to do that. Do you think that the guitar settings can be changed to minimize it without affecting the "sound"?

[dickhauser]

The guitar sounds cool to me. I'm not hearin' the chirp he's talkin' about I listened to this in my studio thru my Tannoy's. Unless of course I'm misunderstanding the meaning of chirp. But ultimatly that guitar riff sounds cool..............

Thanks, Dan. Yes, they are good at what they do. "Mom's Rocket" is the name if you want to iTunes or google them.

[stephentayler]

OK here's the solution - I just tried this in a very crude fashion on the posted audio:

iZotope RX, using the Spectral Repair setting

You can clearly see the chirps, you can just spot them out- (reduce or replace them without affecting the rest of the audio spectrum)

If you don't have it, download the demo, it will let you at least try it out in theory.

Awesome software I have to say, I recently used it extensively to remove unwanted birdsong from movie dialogue that was meant to be in the middle of the night.

Cheers

Stephen

[dickhauser]

OK here's the solution - I just tried this in a very crude fashion on the posted audio:

iZotope RX, using the Spectral Repair setting

Thanks, Stephen. My original post wasn't clear and I'm sorry about that. I didn't mention that we used RX to look at the audio and identify the chirps. We eliminated a few with the Spectral Repair to confirm that we had them. If it gets fixed in post recording, we know where to "notch" or how to use RX on it. However, my son in law is looking for a systemic cause rather than a fix at this point. It really does seem like a pick related sound, but I suspect that it's being exacerbated either by some of the effects that the guitar player uses, or some that have been applied in the studio.

[Frodo]

There's such a thin line between what one intended and what actually sounds cool.

I think it sounds awesome and is one of those elements that causes the listener to say "wow-- how did they do that?".

If the result is unacceptable, then it should be recorded again. It's not like it's a difficult lick to play. The potential for that "chirp" was there in the original recording. What happened that it was overlooked at that time or was later deemed undesirable? (That's a very important question.)

Is it "that bad" or is it really as cool as it seems?

It made me bang *my* head... and hey-- I have a very hard head....

[dickhauser]

There's such a thin line between what one intended and what actually sounds cool.

What happened that it was overlooked at that time or was later deemed undesirable? (That's a very important question.)

Right. I don't think we'll find out, which is a disappointment to me. But I agree that "cool" a thin line. The guitar player is very particular about his sound, so my guess is that the recording was slammed at the studio with something that brought out the pic noise.

Thanks again to all of you for taking the time.