Help Please: Shortcuts for Controller 64 Sustain Input
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Help Please: Shortcuts for Controller 64 Sustain Input
Does anyone have any words off wisdom for the automation of Sustain Pedal Controllers? Thanks, Earl
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Re: Help Please: Shortcuts for Controller 64 Sustain Input
First, be sure they are showing up in the Continuous Data section of the MIDI Edit Window. (I never use Sequence Editor for MIDI; it's nearly impossible)
If they are showing up as switches in the switch editor (that little gap between the piano-roll editor and the Continuous Data editor), then you need to go to the MIDI Edit Window's "Mini-Menu" which in DP6 was moved to the top-right corner of the windows. In previous versions, it was at the top-left. Pull it down to "all switches are continuous data" or something like that.
Once you have your CC#64 showing up in the CC editor, select the type of display for editing and working with CC#64. I like "bars" for that. The menu is at the bottom left of the editor window. It will say either Points, Bars, or Lines. For editing CC's that sustain in one position for a long time, it is advantageous to show them in Bars, for that will color the area to show when the pedal is depressed, and no color when the pedal is released. Works the same for Sostenuto (CC #66) and Unacorda (CC#67).
Now, "automating" a sustain pedal is usually not necessary. It is recorded when you play. But if you want to edit them, or add to them, it's a simple matter to OPTION-Drag a CC#64 icon to make a copy of it and move it where you want it. Just try to keep them at 0 and 127. Most instruments will interpret anything 64 or higher to be "on," and anything under 64 to be "off, but I've seen the occasional instrument that needs a real 0 for off.
If you need continuous data for CC#64 - as in working with a Yamaha Disklavier Grand Piano, and you're finessing the pedals, then make a custom Console set to output CC#64, and target the track in which you are working. When you want to automate the pedal, manually, then create a separate track for the controller (sustain pedal) so that you don't overwrite your music in its own MIDI track. Then record enable the new track, and start recording. Use the custom console to "depress" the pedal at whatever rate you want. This is easiest if you tie that custom console to a Mod wheel or fader on your MIDI Keyboard. Then you can finesse the pedal all you want.
Shooshie
If they are showing up as switches in the switch editor (that little gap between the piano-roll editor and the Continuous Data editor), then you need to go to the MIDI Edit Window's "Mini-Menu" which in DP6 was moved to the top-right corner of the windows. In previous versions, it was at the top-left. Pull it down to "all switches are continuous data" or something like that.
Once you have your CC#64 showing up in the CC editor, select the type of display for editing and working with CC#64. I like "bars" for that. The menu is at the bottom left of the editor window. It will say either Points, Bars, or Lines. For editing CC's that sustain in one position for a long time, it is advantageous to show them in Bars, for that will color the area to show when the pedal is depressed, and no color when the pedal is released. Works the same for Sostenuto (CC #66) and Unacorda (CC#67).
Now, "automating" a sustain pedal is usually not necessary. It is recorded when you play. But if you want to edit them, or add to them, it's a simple matter to OPTION-Drag a CC#64 icon to make a copy of it and move it where you want it. Just try to keep them at 0 and 127. Most instruments will interpret anything 64 or higher to be "on," and anything under 64 to be "off, but I've seen the occasional instrument that needs a real 0 for off.
If you need continuous data for CC#64 - as in working with a Yamaha Disklavier Grand Piano, and you're finessing the pedals, then make a custom Console set to output CC#64, and target the track in which you are working. When you want to automate the pedal, manually, then create a separate track for the controller (sustain pedal) so that you don't overwrite your music in its own MIDI track. Then record enable the new track, and start recording. Use the custom console to "depress" the pedal at whatever rate you want. This is easiest if you tie that custom console to a Mod wheel or fader on your MIDI Keyboard. Then you can finesse the pedal all you want.
Shooshie
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Re: Help Please: Shortcuts for Controller 64 Sustain Input
Shooshie... Many Thanks! The option drag method is going to be very helpful. Could you walk me through the recipe for the Console? There are a lot of choices for the buttons and I wasn't sure about the on off/0-127 states in the selections. Best wishes, Earl
IMac 2 GHZ Intel Core 2 Duo 4 GB Ram, EWQLSC, EWQLSO Silver, Play, Kontakt2, Finale 2007, DP 5.13