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control surface setup. PLEASE HELP!!!

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I've been using DP5 for about 2 years now and I've never really felt the need to spend a minimum of $200 on a control surface for it, so I've been mousing along perfectly happily for that entire time. of course, I had to log in to sweetwater.com on Christmas day and accidentally stumble across the $60 Korg nanoKontrol. I figured it's cheap, and it would certainly be a nice little (pun intended) addition to my modest setup, but being the n00b that I am, I cannot get it working.

I've searched some of the other control surface setup postings, and I came across one that I thought might help that said I had to create a new device and connect it to the nanoKontrol in the Audio MIDI Setup window, but the nanoKontrol doesn't allow you to connect anything to it (I'm guessing since it's a straight USB connection from the unit - no MIDI interface).

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I know that's not a ton of information right off the bat, but there's so much that I don't understand about setting this sort of thing up, I don't really know where to begin. any and all help will be GREATLY appreciated!
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In DP, Setup > Control Surface Setup. Have you done that?
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wurliuchi wrote:In DP, Setup > Control Surface Setup. Have you done that?
yes, but it won't recognize my control surface. according to the DP5 manual it says that if it's not showing in the menu, "it's plug in is probably not installed properly". I followed the instructions that came with the unit, and it showed up in the MIDI setup window, so it looks like it's set up properly. for some reason though, when I open up the MIDI dropdown to add it, it doesn't appear.

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I'm not sure if there's some setting I need to be editing in the control surface editor to get it to work either, since I can't really learn what everything does unless it's working first. kind of a catch-22, it seems.
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Have you installed the drivers?

If you have make sure there the RIGHT one's for your system.

Uninstall and try again.
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kassonica wrote:Have you installed the drivers?
If you have make sure there the RIGHT one's for your system.
You are best off going to the Korg site to see if they have updated the drivers since they burned the CD that came with the unit.
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BKK-OZ wrote:
kassonica wrote:Have you installed the drivers?
If you have make sure there the RIGHT one's for your system.
You are best off going to the Korg site to see if they have updated the drivers since they burned the CD that came with the unit.
yeah, since they don't actually ship a CD with the unit, I downloaded the driver right from their site. I tried deleting it from my MIDI drivers folder and reinstalling, but still the same result.
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Sometimes it can be as simple as a restart (just sayin').

Good luck.
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tried that too.

I really am very surprised that a simple "control surface setup digital performer" search on google comes up with really nothing of value. it's almost like it's some big secret that I'm just not cool enough to be in on or something. :P
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I did find this in the search, but it's for a different controller and version of DP. does DP5 use this type of system as well? I looked in the .dmg package and didn't find anything with a .bundle extension though. curious.
DP4 Set-up

First, copy the TranzPort.bundle file from the ‘Digital Performer Plug-In’ folder on the TranzPort CD-
ROM, into the Library/Audio/Plug-ins/MOTU Control Surface folder of your Macintosh system drive.
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Something has to go in that folder for it to be listed in the Control Surface setup.

If no one here figures it out, I'd give Sweetwater a call on Monday and see what they have to say. I downloaded the manual (if you can call it that) but I couldn't figure it out. There is the Editor in the download section, but as far as I can tell that's just for editing scenes and stuff like that. I was interested in this controller, too.

Good luck. Sorry I'm of no help.
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Does the nanocontrol have HUI mode perhaps?
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wurliuchi wrote:Something has to go in that folder for it to be listed in the Control Surface setup.

If no one here figures it out, I'd give Sweetwater a call on Monday and see what they have to say. I downloaded the manual (if you can call it that) but I couldn't figure it out. There is the Editor in the download section, but as far as I can tell that's just for editing scenes and stuff like that. I was interested in this controller, too.

Good luck. Sorry I'm of no help.
actually that IS of help. knowing that that folder needs something in it for DP to recognize (DP BETTA RECKANIZE! :x ) the control surface is more than I knew before, so it's at least a step in the right direction.

the funny thing is, I saw it on Sweetwater's site, but ended up buying it at Musician's Friend instead. I dunno if their customer service will be as helpful or not, but hopefully they will be.

I doubt it has a HUI mode, as I haven't seen anything in the manual or online mentioning that.
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I also have the nanokontrol and use it extensively with DP. It doesn't support hui or baby hui or anything else on the control surface menu so you can't use it like that which is a bit of a shame as I would love to have mute and record enable button functionality. However, using a combination of the korg editor, midistroke, and "attach MIDI controller" in the mixing board window I am able to do most everything I need. I use midistroke to do a series of keystrokes to record enable specific tracks. Also for the mixer I assign the same cc# to the fader and two buttons. The fader controls the volume fader. The bottom button I set to toggle mode from 0db to mute, which basically gives it the functionality of a mute button. The top button I set momentary mode to be able to mute only when I hold down the button which works great for mixing the type of music I do. I also assign buttons to trigger window sets, cells in model12 as well as customizing the transport section.
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yoonchul wrote:I also have the nanokontrol and use it extensively with DP. It doesn't support hui or baby hui or anything else on the control surface menu so you can't use it like that which is a bit of a shame as I would love to have mute and record enable button functionality. However, using a combination of the korg editor, midistroke, and "attach MIDI controller" in the mixing board window I am able to do most everything I need. I use midistroke to do a series of keystrokes to record enable specific tracks. Also for the mixer I assign the same cc# to the fader and two buttons. The fader controls the volume fader. The bottom button I set to toggle mode from 0db to mute, which basically gives it the functionality of a mute button. The top button I set momentary mode to be able to mute only when I hold down the button which works great for mixing the type of music I do. I also assign buttons to trigger window sets, cells in model12 as well as customizing the transport section.
hmm, that's heartening, at least. so you can't use the transport functions at all, or would you be able to do that with MIDIStroke? anyway, this sounds like it'll require a good bit of setup, but once it's done, I imagine it'll be worth it. too bad I'm visiting family this afternoon. I just want to get this damn thing working! :D
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busle wrote:hmm, that's heartening, at least. so you can't use the transport functions at all, or would you be able to do that with MIDIStroke? anyway, this sounds like it'll require a good bit of setup, but once it's done, I imagine it'll be worth it. too bad I'm visiting family this afternoon. I just want to get this damn thing working! :D
The transport functions work great, it's just that I've customized my transport buttons to do other things than what the buttons have printed on them. Transport controls as well as pretty much anything else can be setup using the commands window. I use midistroke when I need to do a series of keystrokes that involve entering numbers in fields and pressing "RETURN" such as record enabling specific MIDI tracks.
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