Virus TI 2.7.3 released! Has anyone tried it with DP6?

[David Helpling]

Big news - http://access-music.de/news.php4#news126

I suppose I will try it but I would love to hear if this indeed makes the TI "TI" in DP...Grimepoch?

[tyronehowe]

Hi Dave,

I'm downloading it now - thanks for the heads up.

I found that the TI worked ok in Dp 5.13 with TI 2.5.1.02 software.

I'll post back after I've tried the update

[tyronehowe]

Hi Again

Ok – I’ve installed the upgrade – all seems ok so far.

Good to have a third audio stream back from the TI!

[David Helpling]

Are you sure? I just installed it and there is still a crazy latency issue when running it as "TI" (USB for MIDI and Audio)...have you tried playing fast sounds?

[tyronehowe]

Are you sure? I just installed it and there is still a crazy latency issue when running it as "TI" (USB for MIDI and Audio)...have you tried playing fast sounds?

Not quite sure what you mean by “USB for MIDI and Audio” – are you using the TI as an audio interface? If so, then I have no experience of this; I have a separate audio interface plugged into a different USB port.

There are latency issues that only seem to affect a small number of hosts, and the Live button is there to help (I’m sure you know all this anyway!). To quote the manual:

The Live Mode button lowers Virus Control’s latency in order to ease recording live events in hosts such as Ableton Live, FL Studio and Sonar, as well as Digital Performer (which is not officially supported).

So when I play with the Live button enabled, there is no latency. However if I am playing back a previously recorded TI track and trying to play along with or record another TI instrument then there are problems.

If the Live button was ON before record/playback then there is NO latency but the previously recorded TI track will play OUT of time with the rest of your sequence.

If the Live button was OFF before record/playback then there IS latency but the previously recorded TI track will play IN time with the rest of your sequence.

So definitely not perfect … and we have to keep toggling the Live button on and off.

There is something odd about the way DP handles AU instruments – there are a lots of threads about DP’s strange behaviour with various other VIs. I am very disappointed about this. One of the big things about DP6 was the AU handling rewrite and promise of full AU compatibility – this clearly has not happened.

I don’t need to say that I tried the same test in Logic and all just worked perfectly. No need for using the live button at all.

But as DP users, I guess we must get used to this (or should already be used to it) – we are in a small minority (whether we like it or not) and this is just another example of a software/hardware vendor not wanting to spend time/money on a minority market. Point is that Ti DOES work properly with Cubase, Logic and PT – so if DP’s audio engine handled AU properly then it would work.

It is precisely these issues that stop me completely forgetting about Logic. I hate the fact that DP is not always entirely compatible with other software / hardware. After all, DP is not even officially supported by Access

Anyway, that’s hopefully a better answer than my previous!

[David Helpling]

True true...sounds like it's time to call the Access support dudes again and see what the deal is...

[taylor12k]

i can't get my TI (desktop) to update. it hangs on the installer at 88%. i've tried twice and let it hang for 2 hours.

contacted Access, but not response so far.

[tyronehowe]

I emailed Access a few months ago about TI in 5.13 and the reply was courteous, but there was clearly no love for MOTU. They made it clear that Access had done all it can and that MOTU were not being very cooperative.

That’s what Access said – not what I’m saying!

But on the other hand, I remember reading that DP6 was supposed to have the AU core re-written to specifically handle advanced AUs like the Virus Control. So I don’t know if that happened or not. Certainly doesn't seem like it.

It’s basically just a bummer if you want to “play along” or record than one track.

[David Helpling]

That sucks! My install of the new version of TI and the update of my Polar went very smooth...but it isn't "Snappy" enough to use as a plug-in in DP6.01. I'm sure your issue has something to do with whatever version of software is on your TI Desktop now. Please post whatever they tell you (assuming they will call you back).