Missing mono routing function with 424 card ???

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Trickform
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Missing mono routing function with 424 card ???

Post by Trickform »

Hey,
I have a question to al of you out there who use motu ad/da converters to feed an analog console. I just replaced my precious 324 card, running with three 1296s with a 424 card and also bought another 1296 used.. 48ins, 48outs.. great. BUT the outputs in the 424 software are handled as stereo outputs .. meaning if i output a bloody mono track with no panning i get the very same signal on two channels, a.k.a. a stero pair. If i cheat by using the daw´s internat panning function it messes up the daw´s internal aux handling.. meaning i only get a hard panned signal on an internal stereo aux. I know, there are still workaround ways, but why on earth did motu get rid of the mono routing function in the software??? even the ad for the hd192 say 12 inputs and 12 outputs and not 12ins and 6 stereo pairs.. motu couldn´t help and just that that the software can´t do it. Is there nobody out there who has the very same issues ??? I don´t find anything about this, no complains, nothing.. I just gon´t get this! Protools HD would be useless for people who use a decent analog console if this was the case there..
Please if i find others who are sick of work around ways i´d like to make a petition to motu to put this, for some extremely important function back into the driver. If not,, i want you to tell me what you actually do with so many analog outputs if not feeding a console..
Thanks for any reply.
Cheers
Andre
Trickform
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Post by Trickform »

so do you really want to tell me that no one of you is feeding an analog console with motu converters ? so everyone of you mixes in the box... is that correct ?!?
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in my country there is problem...

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?? hello? anybody home? what does a big studio do with a pro tools rig? feeding mono outs into a big ssl, neve, calrec or whatever ..
The routing can be done in mono, even in protools LE? why does nobody have the same problems with the motu drivers? or is at least aware of the problems which this is causing .. (pre fader aux .. no pan vs. post fader hard pan or a channel wasted) .. without the mono routing, the 424 system is close to useless for professional studios. When I bought my motu rig with the 324 card(they still had mono routing) one of the three 1296 units did cost 2500 euros , a very expensive system. If motu doesn´t change this feature, which would be absolutely stupid of them, i will end up buying a plain protools rig. One thing I wanted to avoid and therefor chose motu.
I still find it very confusing that nobody is replying to my post..
you know, the corporate world doesn´t nescessarily want protools .. a huge local TV station just equipped everything with sequoia..back from protools.. but if my 10k investment in a motu rig isnt worth anything because motu simply chooses to get rid of important functions in later versions, this investment has no consitency. And i guess that must be the reason why you don´t see more motu equipment in the corporate world.
I love the 1296 converters, they are great units and i don´t see any reason to change my rig until they break, EXCEPT for a PLAIN mono routing function! MOTU.. IT WAS THERE; IT WAS GREAT; WHY ON EARTH DO YOU CHANGE A WINNING TEAM???

p.s. for the people in this forum... when you record a voice in mono.. or a bass? or a speaker, or or or or ?? do you play it back in stereo?, do you? sorry, but i´m having difficulties to grasp the purpose of this forum..
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Post by 1nput0utput »

If you're using the ASIO driver, you can set a mono track to output to a mono hardware output. For instance, the list of available hardware outputs will be something like this:

MOTU PCI ASIO Analog 1-2 STEREO
MOTU PCI ASIO Analog 1-2 LEFT
MOTU PCI ASIO Analog 1-2 RIGHT
MOTU PCI ASIO Analog 3-4 STEREO
MOTU PCI ASIO Analog 3-4 LEFT
MOTU PCI ASIO Analog 3-4 RIGHT
etc.

So if you set a track output to "MOTU PCI ASIO Analog 1-2 RIGHT," then it will only be played through analog output 2. I believe this also applies to the WDM driver for the PCI-424 system.
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Post by Trickform »

the problem is, that in whatever daw I tried, you can´t choose left or right output. the only thing you can do is pan to left or right, but then you have also apllied this panning onto the daw internal mixer .. auxes etc. so you either get a hard panned signal onto the daw internal auxes or none at all if you use a pre fader aux. The old 324 card software used to have a little mono routing checkbox, to switched to multi mono output. With that, it´s simply possible to choose a single mono output for a channel. new 424 card sotware doesn´t have that anymore, cause motu simply didn´t put it back in. Motu told me that the new card can´t do mono handling anymore, but that´s just an excuse. It just hasn´t been implemented in the driver.
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