Using Reaktor 5 in DP 5.13

myrrh · Post by **myrrh** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:47 pm

Anyone out there using Reaktor 5 in DP 5? I'm having some issues recording some of the ensembles.....They don't record at all. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Saintmatthew · Post by **Saintmatthew** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:26 pm

I've done fine with Reaktor in DP. Which ensembles are giving you fits?

wheever · Post by **wheever** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 3:34 pm

Yeah, many years of R5 here. No problems recording. Kinda a fan of Reaktor.

So as SaintM asked, which ensembles are giving you problems?

David Polich · Post by **David Polich** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:47 pm

Many of the "sequencer" style ensembles cannot be triggered from a keyboard. You have to hit Play and then they'll start making sound. That might be what is happening...

mike_o · Post by **mike_o** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:50 pm

tell me about Reaktor, I was hearing it was good, but I dont know much about it, is it a streaming sample type VI, a synth, whats Reaktor all about?

aizo · Post by **aizo** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 5:27 pm

another R5 Dp 5.13 user here. no problems at all for me. rock solid

reaktor is a program to build your own synths/sequencer/drum machine/sampler/sample mangler/ fx's. it comes with a large selection of premade ones. those alone will keep you busy. but if you are a smart guy
the possibilities are endless. you can completely customize your own machines. from signal flow to gui. anyone who makes music with synths
SHOULD definitely have reaktor.

Killahurts · Post by **Killahurts** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 5:57 pm

Working great for me in 5.13 - as a plug, and in stand-alone mode using IAC MIDI through DP.

David Polich · Post by **David Polich** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 7:18 pm

mike_o wrote:tell me about Reaktor, I was hearing it was good, but I dont know much about it, is it a streaming sample type VI, a synth, whats Reaktor all about?

Reaktor is a modular system that you can use to build your own synthesizers, samplers, sequencers, drum machines, effects, etc. You can start by selecting modules, drawing lines to connect them, etc. Building your own synths and effects and drum machines takes some knowledge of synthesis, signal flow, what components do, oscillators, filters, vca's, lfo's, modulation, etc.

Sound deep? Yes, of course, and too complex for most people. Fortunately, it ships with dozens of instruments and what are called "ensembles" - synths, samplers, drum machines, sequenced synths, effects, etc. It's like getting a ton of new VI's and effects, all for the price of one system. And, the Native Instruments online Reaktor users library contains hundreds of additional synths, effects, drum units, samplers, etc. Some are amazing, a lot are good, some are duds (to be expected). The user library is free to any registered Reaktor user.

There are also a few Reaktor Instrument collections, such as Electronic Instruments 2, which are more VI's and effects created by pros for Reaktor. They are available for purchase from NI's website. These all sound awesome and there are quite a number of very unusual synths and effects, one of my favorites is "Metaphysical Function" which is a random music generator, you launch it, and it creates endless music and musical effect patterns which you can modulate in real-time (and they're all great). If you go to my website, the three pieces of music that play from the site-wide player are tracks I did in DP using just Metaphysical Function and a piano (for the first one, the second two are Metaphysical Function only).

http://www.davepolich.com

Another great one in Reaktor is NuSkool, which is a sequenced rhythm machine and synth pattern generator. You modulate things by moving around colored blocks within what looks like an old 80's video game matrix. Reaktor allows you the option of creating your own skins and interfaces and this one is a great example of that.

The guy who does the soundtracks for CSI (Las Vegas edition) is an avid Reaktor user.

If I had to choose a "desert island VI", Reaktor5 would probably be it. I'm waiting to see how Spectrasonics Omnisphere will compare to it.

mike_o · Post by **mike_o** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 7:35 pm

David Polich wrote: Reaktor is a modular system that you can use to build your own synthesizers, samplers, sequencers, drum machines, effects, etc. You can start by selecting modules, drawing lines to connect them, etc. Building your own synths and effects and drum machines takes some knowledge of synthesis, signal flow, what components do, oscillators, filters, vca's, lfo's, modulation, etc.

Sound deep? Yes, of course, and too complex for most people. Fortunately, it ships with dozens of instruments and what are called "ensembles" - synths, samplers, drum machines, sequenced synths, effects, etc. It's like getting a ton of new VI's and effects, all for the price of one system. And, the Native Instruments online Reaktor users library contains hundreds of additional synths, effects, drum units, samplers, etc. Some are amazing, a lot are good, some are duds (to be expected). The user library is free to any registered Reaktor user.

There are also a few Reaktor Instrument collections, such as Electronic Instruments 2, which are more VI's and effects created by pros for Reaktor. They are available for purchase from NI's website. These all sound awesome and there are quite a number of very unusual synths and effects, one of my favorites is "Metaphysical Function" which is a random music generator, you launch it, and it creates endless music and musical effect patterns which you can modulate in real-time (and they're all great). If you go to my website, the three pieces of music that play from the site-wide player are tracks I did in DP using just Metaphysical Function and a piano (for the first one, the second two are Metaphysical Function only).

http://www.davepolich.com

Another great one in Reaktor is NuSkool, which is a sequenced rhythm machine and synth pattern generator. You modulate things by moving around colored blocks within what looks like an old 80's video game matrix. Reaktor allows you the option of creating your own skins and interfaces and this one is a great example of that.

The guy who does the soundtracks for CSI (Las Vegas edition) is an avid Reaktor user.

If I had to choose a "desert island VI", Reaktor5 would probably be it. I'm waiting to see how Spectrasonics Omnisphere will compare to it.

thanks to everyone for the info, but dave, thats the real answer I was looking for, I like deep sound design, complexity of sound can be its own art, Thanks.

wheever · Post by **wheever** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:49 pm

Piffle to omnisphere. Lets see it do granular synthesis and physical modeling at the same time...with analog modeled filters. Oh, and a big stack of 7 saws. And some samples mixed in for good measure.

Yes, Reaktor is the desert island VI to end all VIs.

David Polich · Post by **David Polich** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 1:11 am

Hmm - I wouldn't count Eric Persing and the gang at Spectrasonics out - I have a strong feeling Omnisphere is going to be another "must-have" VI.
Actually I believe they'll knock it out of the park with this one.

Not to discount Reaktor at all - it's great. Although, it might not be "phat" enough for some people - see this thread:

http://www.motunation.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30368

wheever · Post by **wheever** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:45 am

Thing about Reaktor is your "phatness" is really only limited by your processor power. One can build anything, and then give that sound a lot of unison voices and...well, yeah. 64 voices playing one note is purty "phat."

I saw that omnisphere clip from NAMM and thought the demo sound sounded like one of the factory patches on the Korg M1...I've forgotten which one. (But given that it was a streaming video, I'll reserve judgment until I've heard it in real life.)

thracks · Post by **thracks** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:48 pm

wheever wrote:Yeah, many years of R5 here. No problems recording. Kinda a fan of Reaktor.

So as SaintM asked, which ensembles are giving you problems?

Gee.... couldn't tell you were a fan