Best softsynth ever, hits our shore's!
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- Dwetmaster
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A few El & Ac basses & Guitars, Hammond A-100.
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A few El & Ac basses & Guitars, Hammond A-100.
- Michael Canavan
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I agree as far as soft synths Zebra and Absynth are the kings IMO.Kubi wrote:Zebra 2 is one of my two absolutely favorite synths, 'hard or soft'...
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All kidding aside, it's phenomenal. My other favorite is Absynth, but Zebra is more flexible, so if I had to pick one, Zebra would be it.
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- monkey man
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I've only heard it on the Mac speaker, Dwet, but it does seem to have all the bases covered for dance/tech/trance etc. music, at least as far as analogue-style sounds are concerned.Dwetmaster wrote:This is a demo made exclusively with sylenth
http://www.arksun-sound.com/music/Arksu ... lenth1.mp3
Thank you for posting that mate.
Mac 2012 12C Cheese Grater, OSX 10.13.6
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Yeah thanks for posting this. Now all of a sudden I see this synth popping up. On the abelton forum they are 15 pages into it already. I am going to keep an eye on this on. Zebra was going to my next soft synth, but now I'll have to contemplate.
Macbook pro, 3 gigs of ram, osx 10.62, Dp 5.13, Live 8.1.2, Reason 4, Tc powercore Virus, Albino 3.02, proper ergonomic sitting posture, plenty of coffee (french press only with a pinch of cardamon added)
My dp inspired music.....
http://www.myspace.com/aislingbeing" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.myspace.com/wigginsmaroo" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.mp3.com.au/artist.asp?id=10004" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
My dp inspired music.....
http://www.myspace.com/aislingbeing" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.myspace.com/wigginsmaroo" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.mp3.com.au/artist.asp?id=10004" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
- monkey man
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A-ha! I told you, Josh! LOL
This thing pumps out the classic sounds, IMHO... practically all of them.
What else would you need, especially if it's more CPU-efficient than Blue and Zebra?
This thing pumps out the classic sounds, IMHO... practically all of them.
What else would you need, especially if it's more CPU-efficient than Blue and Zebra?
Mac 2012 12C Cheese Grater, OSX 10.13.6
MOTU DP8.07, MachFive 3.2.1, MIDI Express XT, 24I/O
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Albino (same family as blue) is very cpu efficient. I hear blue is more taxing, but may have a "slight" sonic edge. Zebra, I don't know since I don't own. But I guess your right, if it can manifest the same sounds and some with less cpu, i guess its a no brainer. I'll blame you though once the slightest problem ensuresmonkey man wrote:A-ha! I told you, Josh! LOL
This thing pumps out the classic sounds, IMHO... practically all of them.
What else would you need, especially if it's more CPU-efficient than Blue and Zebra?


Macbook pro, 3 gigs of ram, osx 10.62, Dp 5.13, Live 8.1.2, Reason 4, Tc powercore Virus, Albino 3.02, proper ergonomic sitting posture, plenty of coffee (french press only with a pinch of cardamon added)
My dp inspired music.....
http://www.myspace.com/aislingbeing" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.myspace.com/wigginsmaroo" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.mp3.com.au/artist.asp?id=10004" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
My dp inspired music.....
http://www.myspace.com/aislingbeing" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.myspace.com/wigginsmaroo" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.mp3.com.au/artist.asp?id=10004" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
- monkey man
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Ha! I'd expect no less. Profess it in a dedicated thread if you like. 
Agreed. It's the all-in-one thing that has me hankering even more now for DP to provide something similar.
If nothing happens by the time I start recording again, as much as it goes against my "no 3rd party plugs" philosophy, I reckon I'll be seriously tempted to buy this sucker.
It'll have even more factory presets by then too, you'd think (currently over a thousand, plus 3rd party offerings).
Dang. Time's getting away from me; I'd better wind our little chat up mate.
Catch you on the rebound, Joshster.

Agreed. It's the all-in-one thing that has me hankering even more now for DP to provide something similar.
If nothing happens by the time I start recording again, as much as it goes against my "no 3rd party plugs" philosophy, I reckon I'll be seriously tempted to buy this sucker.
It'll have even more factory presets by then too, you'd think (currently over a thousand, plus 3rd party offerings).
Dang. Time's getting away from me; I'd better wind our little chat up mate.
Catch you on the rebound, Joshster.
Mac 2012 12C Cheese Grater, OSX 10.13.6
MOTU DP8.07, MachFive 3.2.1, MIDI Express XT, 24I/O
Novation, Yamaha & Roland Synths, Guitar & Bass, Kemper Rack
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don't forget to view the youtube videos guys, they show it off really well.
and if you can, please try to keep this synth a secret, the last thing we need is the whole friggin music world having access to the virus sound, and everyone ending up sounding the same with that quality edge.
you know what i mean? but if everyone over at Ableton Live has got it, then sylenth1 is gonna spread like wildfire, and theres our quality advantage gone. previously the Virus sound was for an elite few who could afford it, but if you guy's spread the word, then every man and his dog will be competing with us. It's up to you, but thats my view on things.

and if you can, please try to keep this synth a secret, the last thing we need is the whole friggin music world having access to the virus sound, and everyone ending up sounding the same with that quality edge.
you know what i mean? but if everyone over at Ableton Live has got it, then sylenth1 is gonna spread like wildfire, and theres our quality advantage gone. previously the Virus sound was for an elite few who could afford it, but if you guy's spread the word, then every man and his dog will be competing with us. It's up to you, but thats my view on things.

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- FMiguelez
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I know exactly what you mean.
OTOH, I wouldn't worry too much about that. Having the big sounds is just a small part of it all. To take advantage of that it would have to be in the right hands, under some talent. Kids in a garage, that couldn't tell what a chord is even if it hit them in the arse, could not make any music with the best sounds on earth anyway.
The opposite would be true, though. Real talent would show even with a Casio-tone
I know exactly what you mean.
OTOH, I wouldn't worry too much about that. Having the big sounds is just a small part of it all. To take advantage of that it would have to be in the right hands, under some talent. Kids in a garage, that couldn't tell what a chord is even if it hit them in the arse, could not make any music with the best sounds on earth anyway.
The opposite would be true, though. Real talent would show even with a Casio-tone

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so my question is..im looking to either get..absynth...nexus...zebra...or synlenth....I just am totally up in the air with all of them!!! absynth seems to have the quickest interface..but then again..im not sure...does anyone have experience with any of them!?
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I agree that Sylenth 1 sounds like the ultimate Virus-type VA from listening to the sound examples on the developer's website. So much so that I'm buying it as soon as the Mac AU is released.
However, I don't agree that Zebra 2 doesn't sound "anywhere near" Sylenth 1. I bought it recently and to my ears it sounds almost as good for the Sylenth 1 type of VA sound. But for every other type of synth sound Zebra beats Sylenth 1 into a cocked hat. You won't be getting too many interesting evolving pads out of Sylenth 1, I'll bet.
As for Absynth, well, can you use a sample as an oscillator in Sylenth 1? Nope. Can it do granular? Nope. There are tons of things Absynth can do that Sylenth can't. And if you can find a free bank called "Absynth As A VA" (I think that's what it's called), you can hear Absynth encroaching on Sylenth 1 territory.
Point is, there IS no best synth. There is only the best synth FOR THE JOB. And that's my tuppence worth.
Kind regards.
However, I don't agree that Zebra 2 doesn't sound "anywhere near" Sylenth 1. I bought it recently and to my ears it sounds almost as good for the Sylenth 1 type of VA sound. But for every other type of synth sound Zebra beats Sylenth 1 into a cocked hat. You won't be getting too many interesting evolving pads out of Sylenth 1, I'll bet.
As for Absynth, well, can you use a sample as an oscillator in Sylenth 1? Nope. Can it do granular? Nope. There are tons of things Absynth can do that Sylenth can't. And if you can find a free bank called "Absynth As A VA" (I think that's what it's called), you can hear Absynth encroaching on Sylenth 1 territory.
Point is, there IS no best synth. There is only the best synth FOR THE JOB. And that's my tuppence worth.

Kind regards.
Dave Bourke
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True Dave! But my way of working will be(i say will be because i don't even own a computer or DP yet) will be to keep things to a minimum and not get clogged up with too many "me too" synths.
To me absynth may be versatile but it has that "oh so obvious" "SOFTSYNTH" tone to it that makes me wanna spew, IMO.
If you want something versatile that actually approaches sylenth1 but has greater versatility without that obvious softsynth tone, then take a look at NEXUS (refx.de), it will serve you well and the optional soundbanks are phenomenal although a tad expensive.
I would like to give a heads up on the "Synth1", it is free and absolutely great stuff. Designed to emulate the Nord LeadII, which it does a great job of doing but actually goes beyond it in many ways.
To me absynth may be versatile but it has that "oh so obvious" "SOFTSYNTH" tone to it that makes me wanna spew, IMO.
If you want something versatile that actually approaches sylenth1 but has greater versatility without that obvious softsynth tone, then take a look at NEXUS (refx.de), it will serve you well and the optional soundbanks are phenomenal although a tad expensive.
I would like to give a heads up on the "Synth1", it is free and absolutely great stuff. Designed to emulate the Nord LeadII, which it does a great job of doing but actually goes beyond it in many ways.

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- monkey man
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Is that Rob Papen Predator Synth 1, soundmaster?
If so, the Monkster's here to provide links for you (again! naughty boy! LOL).
Unfortunately they were no go for me for some reason:
http://files.filefront.com/Rob+Papen+Pr ... einfo.html
http://filespump.com/index.php?q=synth+1
http://filespump.com/download_file.php? ... ynth+1.zip
I've a suspicion that it's PC only.
If so, the Monkster's here to provide links for you (again! naughty boy! LOL).
Unfortunately they were no go for me for some reason:
http://files.filefront.com/Rob+Papen+Pr ... einfo.html
http://filespump.com/index.php?q=synth+1
http://filespump.com/download_file.php? ... ynth+1.zip
I've a suspicion that it's PC only.
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predator is mac au as well.....monkey man wrote:Is that Rob Papen Predator Synth 1, soundmaster?
If so, the Monkster's here to provide links for you (again! naughty boy! LOL).
Unfortunately they were no go for me for some reason:
http://files.filefront.com/Rob+Papen+Pr ... einfo.html
http://filespump.com/index.php?q=synth+1
http://filespump.com/download_file.php? ... ynth+1.zip
I've a suspicion that it's PC only.
http://www.robpapen.com/synths/predator/
Macbook pro, 3 gigs of ram, osx 10.62, Dp 5.13, Live 8.1.2, Reason 4, Tc powercore Virus, Albino 3.02, proper ergonomic sitting posture, plenty of coffee (french press only with a pinch of cardamon added)
My dp inspired music.....
http://www.myspace.com/aislingbeing" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.myspace.com/wigginsmaroo" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.mp3.com.au/artist.asp?id=10004" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
My dp inspired music.....
http://www.myspace.com/aislingbeing" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.myspace.com/wigginsmaroo" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.mp3.com.au/artist.asp?id=10004" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;