Why do you guys complain so much?

Resonant Alien · Post by **Resonant Alien** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:23 pm

As far as percentage of complainers, UNation's got nothing on GearSlutz or the UAD forums. Those guys are the biggest pissers and moaners on the entire web from what I can tell.

Resonant Alien · Post by **Resonant Alien** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:26 pm

amplidood wrote: The interface style was, honestly, so far down list compared to changes such as...

- More stability and speed
- Better crossfade processing and handling
- Better VI handling
- Various small improvements to the *exisiting* interface

I'm starting to develop a theory that some of the GUI changes were done in order to enable some of the items above. Moving some buttons from 3D to flat 2D. Using more white and less color. All these things free up small bits of CPU, which they might have done in order to not start requiring Intel machines as baseline. Of course, I don't know any of this for sure, but it makes some sense in my little head

zed · Post by **zed** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:31 pm

kinnylandrum wrote:Well you were right. When I went to the Kontakt 2 window and turned on "always run in real-time" all my problems with false MIDI playback went away.

Glad to hear it! I'm sure that all the issues that showed up early on will be soon overcome as we become more familiar with the software.

kinnylandrum wrote:Thanks for your help, a lot better than some of the condescending attitudes around here.

Hey, my pleasure. I knew you were a good fellow from our previous discussions on this board, but I have to admit that your initial statements about DP6 not being able to play MIDI came across as a little hard-edged. I'm sure that some of those condescending voices you experienced were in response to the way you presented your findings. You will usually have better reactions when you report something in a less extreme fashion.

Now it is time for me to be a little condescending...

Guitar Gaz and sdfalk: You do know that there is a Quote button for when you cut and paste quotes from other posts, right? Putting a quotation in a non-quotation form and then making it bold only confuses others and runs the risk of having them think that it is YOU said that.

kinnylandrum · Post by **kinnylandrum** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:05 pm

zed wrote: Hey, my pleasure. I knew you were a good fellow from our previous discussions on this board, but I have to admit that your initial statements about DP6 not being able to play MIDI came across as a little hard-edged. I'm sure that some of those condescending voices you experienced were in response to the way you presented your findings. You will usually have better reactions when you report something in a less extreme fashion.

You have to admit that when you hit play on an already existing sequence and then find it playing notes and sounds where there is nothing recorded can be a little disconcerting. This is a serious bug and for me makes pre-rendering VIs worthless. And I thought others should know about it.

But then it gets moved out of the DP section, when it is obviously related to a deficiency in DP, and treated like it's just a rant. That seems condescending to me, as if I didn't know what I was doing. Maybe I don't, but it seems like people here are a little defensive about the obvious weaknesses and deficiencies of this update.

But thanks again for helping me find the problem. I don't think I'll turn on pre-rendering again, at least for existing projects. I'll report again if this happens with new DP6 project. Unless of course nobody wants to know...

sdfalk · Post by **sdfalk** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:25 pm

Guitar Gaz and sdfalk: You do know that there is a Quote button for when you cut and paste quotes from other posts, right? Putting a quotation in a non-quotation form and then making it bold only confuses others and runs the risk of having them think that it is YOU said that.

Guitar Gaz and sdfalk: You do know that there is a Quote button for when you cut and paste quotes from other posts, right? Putting a quotation in a non-quotation form and then making it bold only confuses others and runs the risk of having them think that it is YOU said that.

I do...
Sometimes I'm just PLAIN lazy.

YouTube · Post by **James Steele** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:40 pm

Shooshie wrote:Ah SAY now, ah say, ah say... that's a JOKE son.

Foghorn Leghorn rules!

YouTube · Post by **James Steele** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:43 pm

kinnylandrum wrote:But then it gets moved out of the DP section, when it is obviously related to a deficiency in DP, and treated like it's just a rant. That seems condescending to me, as if I didn't know what I was doing.

Look at the title of the thread!!! From the subject header it has nothing to do with DP and that's why it was moved. If you don't want your DP-related complaint/comment/criticism to get lost, create a NEW TOPIC. I can't classify threads based on some change of topic part way down the thread.

Does that make sense now? Just a little bit?

robstudio · Post by **robstudio** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:57 pm

Ah SAY now, ah say, ah say... that's a JOKE son.

Hey now boy, that's, I say, that's my line....

Foghorn Leghorn rules!

Someone, I say, someone mention my name?

I have a complaint about DP6.... I don't have it yet...
I know, I know... boy's about as sharp as a bowling ball... meh...

In jest, Rob

zed · Post by **zed** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:51 am

kinnylandrum wrote:I don't think I'll turn on pre-rendering again, at least for existing projects. I'll report again if this happens with new DP6 project. Unless of course nobody wants to know...

Of course we want to know! Don't be silly.

But you might want to try out the pre-rendering again. I have read at least a couple of reports where other users who were reporting some pretty significant issues suddenly found that all of their problems just went away all by themselves. It may be that DP is just buggy at the beginning while it initializes certain functions and sets things up properly... you might now find that pre-rendering actually works well for you.

Keep experimenting!

Guitar Gaz · Post by **Guitar Gaz** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:17 am

Guitar Gaz and sdfalk: You do know that there is a Quote button for when you cut and paste quotes from other posts, right? Putting a quotation in a non-quotation form and then making it bold only confuses others and runs the risk of having them think that it is YOU said that.

I didn't say that - someone else said that .

zed · Post by **zed** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:26 am

Guitar Gaz wrote:
Guitar Gaz and sdfalk: You do know that there is a Quote button for when you cut and paste quotes from other posts, right? Putting a quotation in a non-quotation form and then making it bold only confuses others and runs the risk of having them think that it is YOU said that.
I didn't say that - someone else said that .

Apparently I didn't say it either.

kassonica · Post by **kassonica** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:34 am

Cause I can here for a 30min argument not the $5 5min one thats why.

donreynolds · Post by **donreynolds** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:53 am

I don't know about everyone else, but usually when I get a new piece of equipment or software, I ready to send it back within a week because it's confusing, but as i work with it it all gets better.(sometimes)

I think just the change from one GUI to a dramatically new one takes a bit getting used to. After a while you get used to it (or maybe not)
But everyone has worked with previous versions and had things they did not care for, buut got used to working with it.

I feel that Motu will try to work with the issues in time as they always have. It probably takes a lot of programming time to do some of those things, and they knew that everyone was waiting for the DP 6 and got it out as quick as they could.

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Why do you guys complain so much?

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