A Beatles Virtual Instrument

Century · Post by **Century** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:20 pm

Speaking of Ringo's birthday. He was on Larry King who mentioned his age about ten times. Finally Ringo says " something like how many times are you gonna mentionin my ageu? How old are you about a hundred and two? " I love it when someone has no fear and speaks his mind. Beatles need fear no one. Go Ringo! Bernard Purdy may claim to have played your drums but he couldn't have responded like that. Sorry Bernard.

zed · Post by **zed** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:49 pm

Happy Belated Birthday, Ringo!

Century wrote:As for the Ringbeats loops, I wasn't thrilled with the patterns so far. If I throw that limiter on them they will sound the way I would like but it's kind of mersey beat from what I hear so far.. Do you know anything about the Ken Scott project (drums) ?

All I know is what Squids reported on the KVR site... that before the end of the year he will have two additional Ringo-styled drummerpacks, one of them recorded with Ken Scott. Squids said that he learned some really great tips from working with Ken and that these next drummer packs will come even closer to hitting the mark for authenticity.

Century wrote:I used the Bonzo loop on one song and the feel carried me into real creative space but I'm struggling to grind out some variations. I haven't tried Ringbeats for fills on this but Bonzo's are pretty limited for fills.

Are you one of the eSoundz Group Buy participants? Did you get DrumCore, by any chance.? If you did I strongly recommend that you go through each loop and add metadata (i.e. comments) to flag your favorite loops, and you can include a word like "fill" to signify your favorite fills. That way when you need a choice of good fills you just type it in and all your favorite ones are right at your fingertips.

Century wrote:As for Beatles stuff several years ago I longed for a telefunken V72 preamp so that I could perhaps get a little of the Beatles' tone. I got a pair and they are beautiful .

Lucky fellow! I am envious. One day I will have at least one of those and a vintage U47 to go with it.

Frodo · Post by **Frodo** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:06 am

zed wrote: All I know is what Squids reported on the KVR site... that before the end of the year he will have two additional Ringo-styled drummerpacks, one of them recorded with Ken Scott. Squids said that he learned some really great tips from working with Ken and that these next drummer packs will come even closer to hitting the mark for authenticity.

I am *so* there already!! When do we preorder?

Frodo · Post by **Frodo** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:58 pm

McCartney wows Liverpool!

Video excerpts:

Hippy, hippy shake
Live and Let Die
Hey Jude

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7427464.stm

kassonica · Post by **kassonica** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:20 pm

Frodo wrote:McCartney wows Liverpool!

Video excerpts:

Hippy, hippy shake
Live and Let Die
Hey Jude

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7427464.stm

great Footage

It seems the macca is back on form YAY.

Frodo · Post by **Frodo** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:22 pm

Yeah, kass.

A bud of mine from Liverpool sent me that link earlier. It was nice to see after a full day of DP6 pre-troubleshooting!

I think I'll pass the rest of the evening learning the guitar solos at the end of Abbey Road. Sounds like a lot of fun.

kassonica · Post by **kassonica** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:25 pm

Frodo wrote:Yeah, kass.

A bud of mine from Liverpool sent me that link earlier. It was nice to see after a full day of DP6 pre-troubleshooting!

I think I'll pass the rest of the evening learning the guitar solos at the end of Abbey Road. Sounds like a lot of fun.

They are some of my favorite solos of all time and their personalities just shine through them.

I believe they were DI into the board and just cranked from there.

zed · Post by **zed** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 2:29 am

kassonica wrote:I believe they were DI into the board and just cranked from there.

That would be one sweet sounding board then!

After all your talk in that other thread about headroom, floating points, zeros and ones, I'm starting to feel like I ought to get a nice, warm-sounding vintage board to mix my tracks in and a reel to reel to go with it.

One day, one day.

And in the end
the love you take
is equal to the love you make

Am I the only one who thinks that the short musical passage that follows these words should have been doubled up? It is such a profound moment, and it always feels like the song ends too abruptly afterwards. It is one of my favorite Beatle moments, and also one of the things I consider a big Beatle blunder.

Maybe it's just me.

kassonica · Post by **kassonica** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 2:35 am

Can't remember what it was off the top of my head but having working on a vintage Neve THERE IS NOTHING LIKE IT.

Those Boards at Abbey Road just to die for really.

The distorted guitar sound on revolution is the Gtr DI'ed into another board through a V72 I believe.

mhschmieder · Post by **mhschmieder** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 2:28 pm

It's funny, if I hadn't gone to the special Abbey Road master class/workshop at AES in October 2006, I may not have developed the awareness of just what a trailblazing studio that was, and in particular just how much we take for granted today was really the result of customisations for the Beatles sessions that then got productised (multiple times by multiple vendors) and commoditised.

It was this new appreciation for how special the engineering aspects of the Beatles sessions were, that led to my purchase of Fab Four earleir this year. I look forward to the day when I have a setup that will launch it without crashing

. At least I can occasionally run Goliath, and the ones that still depend on Kompakt (such as RA) run fine.

I notice this is the only Play product that hasn't been upgraded practically since it first came out. I wonder why? I didn't think it was any different architecturally; whereas the symphonic stuff looks to have different features than the other Play products.

zed · Post by **zed** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 3:53 pm

mhschmieder wrote:It's funny, if I hadn't gone to the special Abbey Road master class/workshop at AES in October 2006, I may not have developed the awareness of just what a trailblazing studio that was...

Those guys were scientists and wizards. Incredible gear they had to work with, and a spirit of inventiveness and experimentation that really made its mark on the recording industry. I've enjoyed reading about Abbey Road gear, engineers and their contributions in the book Recording the Beatles. Former Beatle engineer, Ken Scott, as you are probably already aware, took part in recording those Fab Four samples, and now he is working with Sonic Reality to record more cool instruments using his knowledge and those sentiments from yesteryear.

mhschmieder wrote:I notice this is the only Play product that hasn't been upgraded practically since it first came out. I wonder why? I didn't think it was any different architecturally; whereas the symphonic stuff looks to have different features than the other Play products.

Are you referring to Fab Four? I think EastWest is too busy trying to make their entire catalog PLAY-ready, to spend much time upgrading already released products. Not surprised it crashes your G4. It strains a dual G5 with only a few instruments loaded. It is definitely power hungry.

Frodo · Post by **Frodo** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:06 pm

PLAY UPDATE: V. 1.0.079 RELEASED

http://www.soundsonline.com/updates.php

zed · Post by **zed** » Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:58 pm

Hey folks,

This thread has been buried for much too long. Some more Beatles virtual instruments are about to be released...

The latest eSoundz Group Buy has just 10 days left:
http://www.esoundz.com/details.php?Prod ... udiophonik

Studiophonik will include Rickenbacker guitars and basses, plus other Beatle guitars, and apparently they have been sampled different pickups separately and there will be a way for you to mix between them. Also you can mix between dry and ambient mics for the drum kits…

eSoundz wrote:…Countless sessions in world-class studios have produced some of the best sounding drum kits, guitars and basses ever made in SampleTank format. Now you can mix between dry and ambient mics for drum kits, choose and mix between different pick ups for your guitars and bass sounds in real-time, process raw acoustic and electric studio instruments with 32 studio quality effects and more!

You also get a free IK/eSoundz plugin. I've been meaning to get Miroslav Classik, but I would recommend any of the others if you don't have them (with the exception of Amplitube Metal, which I don't have and can't comment on):

eSoundz wrote:The Studiophonik Prelude Group Buy includes 2 gigabytes of Drums, Guitars and Basses in SampleTank format from the full Studiophonik plug-in. If you don't already own SampleTank you're in luck because also as part of this group buy you can get your choice of either a free SampleTank 2.5 L download (orig price $299) OR you can choose AmpliTube Metal, T-Racks, Sonik Synth 2 or Miroslav CE (all downloadable, zero $ shipping)…

And the icing on the cake is that if 300 people join before the end of the month then everyone gets a free upgrade to the FULL STUDIOPHONIK LIBRARY when it is released later in the fall... which has many more GBs of sampled instruments.

Seems like something we might not want to pass up, if you ask me.

For anyone who doesn't know it already, eSoundz has a referral system which earns both the referrer and referree $5 off their next purchase. So if you do decide to join, it is to your benefit to refer someone... and if you choose it to be me (which is "zedd" with a double-d), then I'd be grateful.

Apparently some FREE sounds from the Studiophonik library will be available later today (Sunday). So check them out at:
http://www.esoundz.com/freesoundz.php

And in other Beatle news, a new DVD is coming out called "All Together Now".

Frodo · Post by **Frodo** » Sun Sep 21, 2008 12:10 am

Well, well, well-- lookee here!! The Beatle thread is back-- and PLAY has gone from .79 to .83.

How 'bout that?

Thanks for the delicious info about esoundz, Z. I thought I saw something going on over there this month, but have been out of the country and lost track.

Yes-- the new DVD. Can't wait.

Is it true that the entire album/cd collection is being re-remastered?

zed · Post by **zed** » Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:13 am

Frodo wrote:Is it true that the entire album/cd collection is being re-remastered?

All I know, is what I have heard by word of mouth. And that is that they re-mastered all the albums in 5.1, and that they also presumably remastered the albums from the original master tapes, as well. When these things will ever be released is anyone's guess. Over the years Apple Corp. has missed a lot of opportunities and anniversaries to release some of this stuff. With record stores closing all around us, it will be more and more difficult for them to profit from these releases.

There is really no excuse for them not to be making this stuff available. They can afford the staff to accomplish several projects a year if they were determined to. This year was the 40th anniversary of the White Album. Did we see a newly remastered version? No we did not. And the current White Album on CD is seriously disappointing in its quality. Next year will be the 40th anniversary of the Rooftop concert. Do you think we'll see a DVD of the Rooftop concert with bonus footage and a "Making of" documentary? Probably not.

Don't know how to explain it, really. It's kind of baffling.

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