6 is here !

Robbie_2327 · Post by **Robbie_2327** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:32 am

Hey, is it just me or does the new color scheme remind you more of the way the original performer used to look?

Does anyone remember that?

You know, back in the days when it was only black & white & grey

quincyg · Post by **quincyg** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:40 am

anyone have a chance to check comping tool, or the prerendering of vi's / bouncing of vi's?

is there MIDI note mute by any chance?

kassonica · Post by **kassonica** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:46 am

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Bill O'C · Post by **Bill O'C** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:47 am

bOing wrote:
I'm over the heebies but am occasionally broadsided by a jeebie.

More than LOL, and almost ROTFL!

I can see why James would want the name of the board to be in sync with the company name, but I don't see why they are dropping their namesake. I mean, what the heck is a MOTU?

I used to work for a division of a company that changed its name to an acronym, and then legally dropped the orginal name. Customers and vendors would often ask me: what does "XYZ" stand for? I'd have to say "well it used to stand for such-and-such, but now it doesn't stand for anything."

Really, even though "Mark of the Unicorn" was a little new-agey, it was cool and unique name.

sonus · Post by **sonus** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:51 am

Well it took me a bit longer than I thought it 'll take to post my first impressions on DP6 but I have had a late night session yesterday in the studio (using 5.13 of course) so ...
First of all the new appearance is much "lighter" than before . To be honest I 'm still trying to get used to it. You see after 10 years mostly spent in front of more or less the same GUI, the new appearance feels strange at first. I think it's a matter of a couple of weeks before I go back , open 5.13 and say "how could I ..." . I think you know what I mean.

The installation was problem - free as always. After I first opened DP6, it went through checking all plug-ins and VIs and loaded all DP5 prefs. The only think it asked me was the usual command merging question.
Then I opened the first project and noticed that the playback wiper and the counter were "jumping' instead of scrolling smoothly. I was in a state of panic for a while but after around 5 minutes, all of a sudden, they both started behaving normally and since then everything seems to be fine .

I've opened a couple of old projects in DP6 as well as DP 5.13 and I didn't notice a significant difference in CPU usage although I think that transport is a little more responsive in DP6 (I'm not sure on that yet)

Although I haven't done a lot of tests (I'm planning to start doing some serious tests during the weekend) , I thought I should post some quick observations at first, so you can have an idea .
What I like :
1. The unified solo and mute buttons-colours through-out DP
2. The way track selector appears once in the CW
3. The TO zoom is a nice addition.
4. The way the track colours appear in TO and sequencer windows give a much clearer indication of where you are and what you see.
5. The new control panel layout makes more sense although I think there is a lot of unused (wasted) space around the two counters.
6. The nudge amount indicator at the upper right corner next to Edit and beat grid buttons.
7. The new Quick Filter position at the bottom of the Graphic editor makes it much easier to be accessed now.
8. The MW leveller looks and sounds good although I didn't have the time to test it against UAD's LA2A.

What I don't like :
1. The lack of play enable and solo buttons in the GE window (unless the are hidden somewhere !)
2. (still) Not resizable audio performance window .
3. As someone else has posted (and I agree) the lack of vertical lines in-between the track columns in the mixing window. I think these lines make it easier to check each track's settings.
4. Still no MIDI note muting in GE !

One initial observation: UAD plug-in controls behave erratic. If you click-hold-drag the controls they jump all over the place. Wasn't this the situation a couple of versions ago? You have to click once on the position you want them to go to. Very irritating!

I'm afraid I have to confirm that. A way to get over it, is to click-to a point around the knob instead of trying to turn it.

These were some first thoughts of mine, I am sure others will start posting their own (more in depth) observations.
After all in a week or so we'll be able to decide how we like this new version.
Good luck to all

MIDI Life Crisis · Post by **MIDI Life Crisis** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:53 am

RecordingArts wrote:Speaking of colour... where is the little colour bar for each track?

Roll your own! Or are those self-rolling items???

Bill O'C · Post by **Bill O'C** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:26 am

Thanks for the post, sonus.

kinnylandrum · Post by **kinnylandrum** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:33 am

tommymandel wrote: Hey, has anyone tried using the Access System Preference to shift DP6 into "White on Black" mode? (Control/Option/Command/eight)

PS. Hi Kinny - we still have that java ahead of us - my kid really got a lot out of a certain teacher she had this past year too!

Hi Tommy,

Actually that "White on Black" looks pretty good for DP6. Certainly easier on the eyes. However, it doesn't look so good for everything else, and I can only get it to be an all or nothing thing. I really think there is too much glare in the new DP6. When I first loaded it up I thought something was wrong, that it didn't install correctly.

Glad your daughter had a good experience in my wife's class. If she's not already signed up for it, she may like the "Poetry of Lyrics" class next year too.

KL

kassonica · Post by **kassonica** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:33 am

MIDI Life Crisis wrote:
RecordingArts wrote:Speaking of colour... where is the little colour bar for each track?

Roll your own! Or are those self-rolling items???

Jaysplace101 · Post by **Jaysplace101** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:38 am

sonus wrote: I've opened a couple of old projects in DP6 as well as DP 5.13 and I didn't notice a significant difference in CPU usage although I think that transport is a little more responsive in DP6 (I'm not sure on that yet)

Any VI's in these projects? I'm wondering if opening a new project wouldn't have any prerendered VI's thus CPU usage would be similar. Seems like there would have to be some sort of process - like at least playing through the song once to allow VI pre-rendering. Maybe that's why the wiper was jerky at first?

I'm so curious to see how much load is taken off with VI Prerendering. That's the big one for me and probably many others here.

kinnylandrum · Post by **kinnylandrum** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:58 am

sonus wrote:Well it took me a bit longer than I thought it 'll take to post my first impressions on DP6 but I have had a late night session yesterday in the studio (using 5.13 of course) so ...
First of all the new appearance is much "lighter" than before . To be honest I 'm still trying to get used to it. You see after 10 years mostly spent in front of more or less the same GUI, the new appearance feels strange at first. I think it's a matter of a couple of weeks before I go back , open 5.13 and say "how could I ..." . I think you know what I mean.

I just did open up both, and the old version is definitely superior and easier on the eyes. I will likewise try a long session tomorrow on DP6 and give my impressions, but my eyes already hurt from looking at the new GUI.

I also find that the scroll button can inadvertently make a fader move if you touch while just hovering over a fader. The good news is that you can move the mixing board up and down if your cursor is anywhere on the mixing board but over a pan or a fader. You don't have to go all the way over to the scroll bar. However if the board moves down to either the pan or fader area, it starts moving the pan or fader. In the old version, you had to move the mouse over to the scroll bar to scroll. Just something to look out for, or you'll be making moves you don't want to make. (Plus the old mixing board in gray looked much better)

Since David Polich asked, the UVI workstation does allow you to open Apple Loops within its own window. This a definite plus. However, some of them sound wrong, completely distorted. And the ones that work cannot be dragged from the browser to DP, as the UVI clearly shows happening on page 21 of its own manual. In fact you can't drag ANYTHING, .wav, .aif. or.caf, from the UVI browser to DP. While you are required to update to the 1.0.3 UVI application to work with .caf files, the UVI thing is definitely not ready for prime time.

kinnylandrum · Post by **kinnylandrum** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:08 am

Sorry operator error: you can drag from the Loop window of UVI to DP6. However, it seems to interpret tempos slightly wrong. In the Drag and drop window of UVI, it said the tempo was 79.66, when I had set it at 80, and sure enough there was a tiny stutter when the loop was just a touch short.

Eleventh Hour Sound · Post by **Eleventh Hour Sound** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:32 am

I've been getting some of the erratic curser in 5.13. I thought it was my trackball.

So you think it's related to BFD? Have you written them?

philbrown wrote:
FutureLegends wrote:One initial observation: UAD plug-in controls behave erratic. If you click-hold-drag the controls they jump all over the place. Wasn't this the situation a couple of versions ago? You have to click once on the position you want them to go to. Very irritating!
Weird... I'm having that exact problem with BFD instantiated on 5.13. It makes DP's send and pan knobs go crazy- and certain other VI knobs like Soundtoys as well.

Killahurts · Post by **Killahurts** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:02 am

Well I got mine this morning- still wondering whether or not to install..
I am planning to finish a big project with 5.13 this month.

If I install and launch DP6 to try it out, and then go back to 5.13 to finish my project, could I experience any problems (like with MIDI setup, plugs and VI's - I know DP won't hurt my project files unless I save them as DP6)?

Seems like a couple you guys are running both without it breaking anything, but I want to be reasonably sure it won't confuse my computer or break my plugs.

I'm using a 3 GHz. Quad with 10.4.11

What I'm most curious about is how they have implemented the Euphonix Artist Control Eucon stuff. I have an MC Control to try it out with. But so far, I haven't been able to find anything about it in the documentation.

FutureLegends · Post by **FutureLegends** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:10 am

philbrown wrote:I would love to hear anything about the CD burning capabilities of DP6. I may end up liking some of the improvements, but CD mastering is the only new feature I'm really on the edge of my seat for. If it can handle my workflow, I can finally ditch Waveburner running on OS9 on the G4 sitting in the corner. I don't see much interest in this feature and am a bit surprised as the options for OSX are precious and few. Maybe I just have Special Needs

Just burned a CD directly from DP6... Worked fine. But it still takes it some time to bounce... Sorta hoped it would burn as it bounced... Got no idea where the bounce file ends up or if it gets deleted after burn... For quick and dirty burns it seems fine though!