MOTU says they know about the squeal!

[jugealt]

I downloaded the new firmware and driver left it on overnight so far so good

[ccrane]

I have the 828mkII so I only downloaded and installed the new driver.
I also did a reset of the 828 and the 'squeal' has been gone for 2 days now!
(I also switched fireports in the back of the unit but I doubt that did anything)
Thanks earldrum again for the heads up!

[jeff sanders]

oh (days later)...now I get it! haha

I'm still lost

Sorry... I enjoy seeing just how cryptic a joke I can make and still have somebody get it. Ned Beatty was the actor in the early 70s movie called "Deliverance." He co-starred with John Voight and Burt Reynolds. Hopefully that will be enough of a hint, because it's a rather unpleasant reference.

Thanks about the guitar. Oddly that Razorback is flashy and gets some notice, but it's a cheap import. I have a custom USA V and ML, both signed by Dean Zelinsky that play better and are more expensive, but they are sans Floyd Rose and I need that for some songs. I also bought a Razorback V with the same color scheme. I installed a Hipshot "Tremsetter" on it though, as the tendency of Floyd Rose type bridges to "give" when bending strings drove me nuts!! Bend a note and all the other strings go flat. Now with the tremsetter I don't have this problem. Gotta push the bar down harder, but it sounds better to be in tune!

does the tremsetter allow you to pull up the bar as well as push it it down? my guitar player friend also said the strings going flat thing can be a bother on his guitar. im googling tremsetter right after this post. thanx

[James Steele]

I'm still lost

Sorry... I enjoy seeing just how cryptic a joke I can make and still have somebody get it. Ned Beatty was the actor in the early 70s movie called "Deliverance." He co-starred with John Voight and Burt Reynolds. Hopefully that will be enough of a hint, because it's a rather unpleasant reference.

Thanks about the guitar. Oddly that Razorback is flashy and gets some notice, but it's a cheap import. I have a custom USA V and ML, both signed by Dean Zelinsky that play better and are more expensive, but they are sans Floyd Rose and I need that for some songs. I also bought a Razorback V with the same color scheme. I installed a Hipshot "Tremsetter" on it though, as the tendency of Floyd Rose type bridges to "give" when bending strings drove me nuts!! Bend a note and all the other strings go flat. Now with the tremsetter I don't have this problem. Gotta push the bar down harder, but it sounds better to be in tune!

does the tremsetter allow you to pull up the bar as well as push it it down? my guitar player friend also said the strings going flat thing can be a bother on his guitar. im googling tremsetter right after this post. thanx

Yeah... you can pull the bar up a bit as well. Here's a link:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ ... sku=361269

The thing about it is that if you're squeamish at all about working on guitars you might want to have a tech install it for you. I mean... it's not THAT difficult, but if you look at some of the reviews on various sites, some people will complain, but I get the feeling they had a problem with installation. You need to take some careful measurements and take your time. For example, inside the tremsetter there is a rod that moves. At some point you trim off the excess amount of this wire rod, but it may be that in order to have full clearance for the travel of this rod, you may need to drill a hole in the side of the tremolo cavity.

It may not be for everyone and I'm not going make a guarantee. It's about a $36 gamble you're going to take, but if installed properly, I'm very happy. String bends for example... are that much more responsive as if you're bending a note on a hard tail guitar like a Les Paul. You need less pressure to raise a note to a certain pitch because the bridge is no longer giving you slack when you bend a note. Makes it much easier to go for the intentionally wild vibrato on a note. And of course, strings that aren't being bent don't go flat during a bend.

The only thing you miss out on that I can see... and it doesn't bother me... but if you want to still get the "Floyd Flutter"... that warbly effect like Brad Gillis in Night Ranger did in "Don't Tell Me You Love Me" by thumping the body of your guitar or quickly tapping the bar, you're out of luck there.

[ccrane]

The only thing you miss out on that I can see... and it doesn't bother me... but if you want to still get the "Floyd Flutter"... that warbly effect like Brad Gillis in Night Ranger did in "Don't Tell Me You Love Me" by thumping the body of your guitar or quickly tapping the bar, you're out of luck there.

Always been more of a Jeff Watson man myself.

[James Steele]

The only thing you miss out on that I can see... and it doesn't bother me... but if you want to still get the "Floyd Flutter"... that warbly effect like Brad Gillis in Night Ranger did in "Don't Tell Me You Love Me" by thumping the body of your guitar or quickly tapping the bar, you're out of luck there.

Always been more of a Jeff Watson man myself.

It was the only example that came to mind...

[jeff sanders]

Sorry... I enjoy seeing just how cryptic a joke I can make and still have somebody get it. Ned Beatty was the actor in the early 70s movie called "Deliverance." He co-starred with John Voight and Burt Reynolds. Hopefully that will be enough of a hint, because it's a rather unpleasant reference.

Thanks about the guitar. Oddly that Razorback is flashy and gets some notice, but it's a cheap import. I have a custom USA V and ML, both signed by Dean Zelinsky that play better and are more expensive, but they are sans Floyd Rose and I need that for some songs. I also bought a Razorback V with the same color scheme. I installed a Hipshot "Tremsetter" on it though, as the tendency of Floyd Rose type bridges to "give" when bending strings drove me nuts!! Bend a note and all the other strings go flat. Now with the tremsetter I don't have this problem. Gotta push the bar down harder, but it sounds better to be in tune!

does the tremsetter allow you to pull up the bar as well as push it it down? my guitar player friend also said the strings going flat thing can be a bother on his guitar. im googling tremsetter right after this post. thanx

Yeah... you can pull the bar up a bit as well. Here's a link:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ ... sku=361269

The thing about it is that if you're squeamish at all about working on guitars you might want to have a tech install it for you. I mean... it's not THAT difficult, but if you look at some of the reviews on various sites, some people will complain, but I get the feeling they had a problem with installation. You need to take some careful measurements and take your time. For example, inside the tremsetter there is a rod that moves. At some point you trim off the excess amount of this wire rod, but it may be that in order to have full clearance for the travel of this rod, you may need to drill a hole in the side of the tremolo cavity.

It may not be for everyone and I'm not going make a guarantee. It's about a $36 gamble you're going to take, but if installed properly, I'm very happy. String bends for example... are that much more responsive as if you're bending a note on a hard tail guitar like a Les Paul. You need less pressure to raise a note to a certain pitch because the bridge is no longer giving you slack when you bend a note. Makes it much easier to go for the intentionally wild vibrato on a note. And of course, strings that aren't being bent don't go flat during a bend.

The only thing you miss out on that I can see... and it doesn't bother me... but if you want to still get the "Floyd Flutter"... that warbly effect like Brad Gillis in Night Ranger did in "Don't Tell Me You Love Me" by thumping the body of your guitar or quickly tapping the bar, you're out of luck there.

heh, that was a tune we did back in high school when it came out. i kinda miss the days of two guitars trading leads back and forth. ill pass it on to my friend. thanks

[ccrane]

The only thing you miss out on that I can see... and it doesn't bother me... but if you want to still get the "Floyd Flutter"... that warbly effect like Brad Gillis in Night Ranger did in "Don't Tell Me You Love Me" by thumping the body of your guitar or quickly tapping the bar, you're out of luck there.

Always been more of a Jeff Watson man myself.

It was the only example that came to mind...

Yeah, I can't think of anyone else really doing that! As much as I admire Jeff Watson and his dexterity, I have to give Brad credit, that was a neat little trick, plus it looked pretty cool w/ him banging on his guitar while playing the notes.
I like the coining of the phrase 'Floyd Flutter' : ) It immediately conjured up that NightRanger solo. FWIW the song 'nightranger' had some pretty cool dueling solos as well. Now where did I store those old cassettes.....

[James Steele]

I like the coining of the phrase 'Floyd Flutter' : ) It immediately conjured up that NightRanger solo.

Thanks... I like it too... I got lucky on that. You gotta tell people you heard it from me first!

Actually I think Brad Gillis (or it might have been the other guy in NR) came up with the four-finger tapping as an offshoot of Eddie's 3-fingered technique that every kid who bought Van Halen I was doing after someone finally figured out what he was doing in Eruption. I remember thinking of that myself and showing a buddy my idea... that is use TWO fingers on the picking hand to tap different notes combined with the the two notes that could be covered with the fingering hand. He thought it was stupid and poo-poo'd my idea. THEN I saw Brad do it.

Frankly though, I suck at all that EVH style tapping. My hero's were guys who pick every note most of the time. To each their own though... probably really stems from the fact that I never was willing to invest the time to get really good at that technique.

[ccrane]

I like the coining of the phrase 'Floyd Flutter' : ) It immediately conjured up that NightRanger solo.

Thanks... I like it too... I got lucky on that. You gotta tell people you heard it from me first!

done!

My hero's were guys who pick every note most of the time. To each their own though...

I think the reason I liked Jeff Watson was because of his precise picking, I'm not like his biggest fan or anything but his stuff always caught my ear.
It's great that there are so many talented players out there. I can appreciate a lot of different styles...classical, blues, bluegrass, even folk.

My avatar shows an obvious fondness for a certain Van Nuys guitarist who had some beautifully picked scales and yet was so 'fluid' and melodic.
Dimebag Darrell had that gift as well I believe, and he could 'squeal' with the best of them. (see, I'm trying to get back on topic!)
Steve Morse is another one..such clean precise impressive solos (with feeling)..with out getting too crazy with the million notes a minute thing, though that can be pretty neat too, but like you said - to each their own!

[Foo]

So, I'm looking at ordering an 828MK3 for a new live show I'm running this summer...

Has anyone seen the squeal come back with the latest drivers under OS X 10.5.3? If so, please respond. Thanks!

[Robbie_2327]

So, I'm looking at ordering an 828MK3 for a new live show I'm running this summer...

Has anyone seen the squeal come back with the latest drivers under OS X 10.5.3? If so, please respond. Thanks!

So far so good. I haven't had the squeal return and I had major issues with it. I'm still running on OS 10.5.2 though. They updated the firmware to v1.06 and had an update for the drivers as well. I've been hesitant to upgrade to 10.5.3 or 10.5.4 since everything seems to be working now

[channelite]

Everything is running great under 10.5.4 and firmware 1.06 on my mac pro. Though, I never had the squeal ever. Since I got the 828 mk3, I've retired my mackie 1402. I monitor everything from the 828 and cuemix fx. The 1402 will be going to craiglist soon. I wish I could get my UC33e to to control the 828. I just have to figure out how to get the UC33e to emulate mackie hui..

It's safe to assume that you could buy a 828 mk3 with confidence.

[jugealt]

Alls good here been running for over a week and no problems

[TerraMortim]

Hello folks. First time posting here.

Anyway. I'm just wondering if anyone knows about a fix of this for the 896HD, rather than the 828. I'm getting the same squeal issues in quicktime and logic (but other programs-such as VLC media player-are fine).

This is a much bigger issue for those of us with the 896HD's because we don't have any hardware reset options (even though MOTU suggests toggling the voltage...it does nothing from what I can tell, and has never fixed an issue in the few years that I've had it, ever... I don't think it does anything.)

I notice the 828 firmware update but nothing in the way of a firmware update for the 896HD. I certainly can't afford to buy a new interface of the same quality as a solution.

Of course I've tried a complete system format/re-install. Running Leopard 10.5.4, logic pro 8 on a dual 2gHz G5.

Anyone else seeing something that I'm not, or know a way of fixing this stupid problem? (my entire production system is at a standstill while this problem persists)

thanks