Its been nearly half a year since DP6 was announced!
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Its been nearly half a year since DP6 was announced!
The novelty of the new features has warn off already, and the product hasn't even come out yet!
It would have been acceptable if they kept it under wraps abit longer. as we would have been none the wiser. But to give us such an in depth tease all the way back in January is just 1st degree cruelty!!
It would have been acceptable if they kept it under wraps abit longer. as we would have been none the wiser. But to give us such an in depth tease all the way back in January is just 1st degree cruelty!!
Some are wondering about the rumors since January leading up to current confirmations about Snow Leopard appearing sooner than later.
If Snow Leopard completely drops older (carbon) code, then this will translate into a lot of do-overs for a whole lot of developers who are now under the gun to recode everything to 100% cocoa as close to 10.6's release as possible.
The implications of Snow Leopard go way beyond DP6 and extend to all the third-party VIs and plugins we use, which could trickle to market as unevenly as they did getting to Intel and/or 10.5.
The upside is that it's going to be amazing in the long term. The downside is that the word "long" has to be used to describe the upside.
How this really impacts specifically on DP6 or whether it has anything at all to do with DP6's current delays cannot be confirmed-- mine are only guesses.
Let's hope it's only about tweaks and bug fixes at this point.
If Snow Leopard completely drops older (carbon) code, then this will translate into a lot of do-overs for a whole lot of developers who are now under the gun to recode everything to 100% cocoa as close to 10.6's release as possible.
The implications of Snow Leopard go way beyond DP6 and extend to all the third-party VIs and plugins we use, which could trickle to market as unevenly as they did getting to Intel and/or 10.5.
The upside is that it's going to be amazing in the long term. The downside is that the word "long" has to be used to describe the upside.
How this really impacts specifically on DP6 or whether it has anything at all to do with DP6's current delays cannot be confirmed-- mine are only guesses.
Let's hope it's only about tweaks and bug fixes at this point.
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Re: Its been nearly half a year since DP6 was announced!
J.Daniels wrote:The novelty of the new features has warn off already, and the product hasn't even come out yet!
It would have been acceptable if they kept it under wraps abit longer. as we would have been none the wiser. But to give us such an in depth tease all the way back in January is just 1st degree cruelty!!
Some recommendations:
1. Use DP 5.13 and take your frustration out in the creative process.
2. Find some good humor and laugh a bit.
3. Have some Jack Daniels and it will all seem less important.

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Re: Its been nearly half a year since DP6 was announced!
And since the beta testers can't even mention the seeds... the rest of us are left in the dark...
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Re: Its been nearly half a year since DP6 was announced!
hah thanks for the recommendation! its been taken on board. but i think zaque is on point when he says "companies dont like NOT releasing software". It makes the announcements seem like less of an evil teasebillf wrote:J.Daniels wrote:The novelty of the new features has warn off already, and the product hasn't even come out yet!
It would have been acceptable if they kept it under wraps abit longer. as we would have been none the wiser. But to give us such an in depth tease all the way back in January is just 1st degree cruelty!!
Some recommendations:
1. Use DP 5.13 and take your frustration out in the creative process.
2. Find some good humor and laugh a bit.
3. Have some Jack Daniels and it will all seem less important.

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I just don't see what good it would do if we got DP6 RIGHT NOW and find out it is buggy, unreliable and half baked.
Then we would have to erase it and use a working older copy anyway.
I'm happy they are saving us that, and just working hard at giving us a version that really will work.
And if they need to revise their programming to conform to whatever changes Apple has made or will make, then I'm all for it.
Why suffer with bugs? Let THEM worry about it and give us the equivalent of DP6.1 instead
I just don't see what good it would do if we got DP6 RIGHT NOW and find out it is buggy, unreliable and half baked.
Then we would have to erase it and use a working older copy anyway.
I'm happy they are saving us that, and just working hard at giving us a version that really will work.
And if they need to revise their programming to conform to whatever changes Apple has made or will make, then I'm all for it.
Why suffer with bugs? Let THEM worry about it and give us the equivalent of DP6.1 instead

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This is true, but then why announce it at NAMM and have companies like Sweetwater tout it in their catalogue?FMiguelez wrote:I just don't see what good it would do if we got DP6 RIGHT NOW and find out it is buggy, unreliable and half baked.
Then we would have to erase it and use a working older copy anyway.
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To create momentum and expectation... Like they have with us here at UN... how many related threads??MIDI Life Crisis wrote:This is true, but then why announce it at NAMM and have companies like Sweetwater tout it in their catalogue?FMiguelez wrote:I just don't see what good it would do if we got DP6 RIGHT NOW and find out it is buggy, unreliable and half baked.
Then we would have to erase it and use a working older copy anyway.
Brad?

One thing is for sure: they BETTER live up to so much expectation from us.
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I know they will live up to it, but like the thin line between love and hate, there is an equally thin set of lines between momentum & inertia, and expectation & credibility.FMiguelez wrote: To create momentum and expectation... Like they have with us here at UN... how many related threads??![]()
One thing is for sure: they BETTER live up to so much expectation from us.
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Very thin to start with and getting thinner by the day.MIDI Life Crisis wrote:I know they will live up to it, but like the thin line between love and hate, there is an equally thin set of lines between momentum & inertia, and expectation & credibility.FMiguelez wrote: To create momentum and expectation... Like they have with us here at UN... how many related threads??![]()
One thing is for sure: they BETTER live up to so much expectation from us.
It doesn't help with the confidence in the company.
If I was doing a mix for a client and said "yep it will be ready in a week here is a rough MP3" and a month later still no word from me despite being asked I don't think they would rehire me in a hurry.
But if I said "it's going to take me months but it'll be worth it" at least they would know where they stand.
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