importing aaf to DP

[galziv]

Hi all,
I got a nice film scoring and sound design and work with DP 5.01.
The director worked on Premier and gave me all the stuff in AAF.
I tried to import it to DP but it's grayed out. Any Idea anyone?
As I understand it DP 5 suppose to support aaf files.
Thanks for sharing thoughts,
Galileo

[Mr_Clifford]

For starters, upgrade 5.01 to either 5.11 or 5.13. 5.01 is the worst, most unstable version of DP5. It's a free upgrade on the MOTU website for registered users.

The only reason not to upgrade would be if you're still on Panther (OSX 10.3.x)

[Phil O]

Hmm. I'm not sure if DP supports aaf. Isn't that a new multimedia format? Did you mean aiff?

Phil

[MIDI Life Crisis]

Hmm. I'm not sure if DP supports aaf. Isn't that a new multimedia format? Did you mean aiff?

Phil

Actually, it is several years old. DP used to support it (supposedly) but it never really worked.

The difference between AAF and OMF is that AAF allows for fades to be included, so you'd get the previous editor's fades with AFF.

OMF is also not 100% on DP.

[Phil O]

Thanks for that clarification, MLC. So what's galziv to do? Anyone?

Phil

[MIDI Life Crisis]

Thanks for that clarification, MLC. So what's galziv to do? Anyone?

Phil

He needs to talk to his editor to see what other options exist. There are a few, but I don't really want to get tangled in a long discussion on how the editor is supposed to do his job.

At least not for free...

[giles117]

AAF improt works for me in 5.13

[galziv]

Thanks guys.
Today I got few versions of the AAF and one opened! but what a mess.
To begin with it can not recognize all the audio files. so there is a kind of time line (16 audio tracks) but with no actual files (they are all question marked in the sound file editor). I think it loads to the sequence the whole edited film files. (many avi files). Anyway,
For those of you who did get AAF working, did you get a SD 2 or aiff audio files? If anyone do like to share a different way the editor can give me all the audio time lined from Premiere pro to DP I would greatly appreciate it.

[MIDI Life Crisis]

I don't think any programs but DP are using SD II files for the most part. Could be the issue since DP is using SD II files.

[sonsey]

The problem isn't DP (which opens AVID and FCP AAF's just fine) but Premiere... The AAF export in Premiere was really only designed for transfer to After Effects, so as far as us poor audio folks go, it basically doesn't work! (For what it's worth it doesn't work in PT either).

One solution is to have your Director/Editor use a piece of software called Automatic Duck, which WILL export a proper audio OMF from Premiere.

[MIDI Life Crisis]

The problem isn't DP (which opens AVID and FCP AAF's just fine) but Premiere... The AAF export in Premiere was really only designed for transfer to After Effects, so as far as us poor audio folks go, it basically doesn't work! (For what it's worth it doesn't work in PT either).

One solution is to have your Director/Editor use a piece of software called Automatic Duck, which WILL export a proper audio OMF from Premiere.

No entirely true. I've gotten AAF files from P/T and I believe Media 100 and Avids that don't work in DP, or at least didn't under the DP version I was using at the time. Certainly that was NOT DP 5.13 so maybe those were fixed, but in 5.11 I still couldn't open AAFs reliably, nor could I import OMFs from every source. Although it wouldn't surprise me if in the case of an Adobe product there would be an "incompatibility..."

I'm not certain which film editing programs were being used, but I am certain they weren't editing in Premiere.

[galziv]

At this point I think I am going to try and ask the editor to try and use the Automatic Duck or try to convert it myself to OMF (I sure hope that it will support OMF) and I myself will upgrad to the 5.13. b.t.w the files that were cued on he timekine were AVI files. This is another mystery to me:
Is DP suppose to work with these? thanks again for your thoughts
Galileo

[kassonica]

Be careful with OMF as well. As MLC pointed out it's never 100%

[sonsey]

No entirely true. I've gotten AAF files from P/T and I believe Media 100 and Avids that don't work in DP, or at least didn't under the DP version I was using at the time. Certainly that was NOT DP 5.13 so maybe those were fixed, but in 5.11 I still couldn't open AAFs reliably, nor could I import OMFs from every source. Although it wouldn't surprise me if in the case of an Adobe product there would be an "incompatibility..."

I'm not certain which film editing programs were being used, but I am certain they weren't editing in Premiere.

Okay point taken... AAF's or OMF's from ANY NLE can cause problems... though 90% of the time this is a direct result of the video editor being unaware of HOW to actually create the files. However, done properly AAF's and OMF's will open just fine in DP (I did a whole series with them in 5.0 and on...) within the limitations of the system (i.e. stereo tracks are not supported, no track names, etc.).

My main point is that the AAF export from Premiere is NOT the same as an AAF from Avid or FCP and won't actually load in just about any DAW...

[MIDI Life Crisis]

My main point is that the AAF export from Premiere is NOT the same as an AAF from Avid or FCP and won't actually load in just about any DAW...

I'll agree with that 150% Also, there are several flavors of OMFs out there, which doesn't make things any easier.

MM