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***Meeting with Magic Dave and DP6 preview (it's cool!!)***

Post by BradLyons »

So I have the distinct honor of sitting down with our own Magic Dave right now going through the new Digital Performer 6. My first impression is that this is very much like ProTools in the look and feel. NOW DON'T TAKE THAT THE WRONG WAY, what I mean is that the interface is just clean, direct to the point and the ability to see what you want to see--not what they want you to see. The new color coding for the audio tracks is quite nice, again something I really like in PT that makes dealing with large scale projects so much easier. For me, I do often deal with sessions that have as many as 120-channels of audio with my busses, cues, matrix mixes, etc. I LOVE the ability to adjust the the size and overview of the tracks on the fly with the sidebars, something I wish PT would do. But as you know for DP, this is a long-requested feature. Okay, back to the layout..... I hate to say it, but this is where it's more like Logic in that you have far more control over your screensets and where everything appears. The new layout is AWESOME, by the way! Again, a cleaner interface.

For you film-scoring guys, the new XML support with FinalCut is a HUGE feature for doing updates. For example if the video guys say we made a change and you need to re-do the music to fit the changes, the new Import from FCP XML set will save a great deal of time and frustration. Likewise, you can move one session to the other or even run them together and talk directly to each other. You don't have to look for a file, it just finds the FC session---great! There is now support for 23.976 fps and 30-drop as well. You can also send full video to the DV output on the firewire bus as well, cool! I'm not sure if that means V3HD yet, but I'll find out.

Track Comping..... something that's used a lot in other programs, maybe too much. BUT it can be a useful tool to get that "Best Take". Honestly, I've never done this in DP before---but the new Comp track feature is quite impressive! The ability to see all the takes side by side is certainly quick and easy without the need to create additional "Real" tracks. You can also see the current track as well as the new comp take made up of the comps themselves. Just by clicking on the regions in the various comp tracks will move that comp edit into the new track that will make the new track available immediately. You still have the full audio track itself, it's still just audio. Working with the selection boundaries and the ability to turn them on/off is also quite useful. BUT you can also use the takes as their own tracks with their own EQ, Compression, effects, etc as well as their own fader if you so desire.

There is a new plugin included, a really good emulation of the LA2A that was taken from the new 828mk3 design. I don't know if this was there before, but you have the ability to decide if your native audio files are broadcast wave with the choice of being either interleaved or not. By holding down a particular key combination, you have the ability to bring up a checklist allowing you to decide what plugins to load or not to load to preserve ram and load time. There's a whole new plugin management feature including categorized plugins in the drop-down menu. Did I say the new layout and screen design is quite cool?

For using VI's, the new pre-rendering features will give you a greater efficiency for loading even more virtual instruments for larger and more in-depth projects. The bounce to disk rendering takes everything including the audio and VI's, not either or. Again, VERY cool! So if you're on an 8-core Mac and still need more tracks---more power to you! 8)

YOU CAN BURN DIRECT TO AUDIO CD FROM WITHIN DIGITAL PEFORMER 6 WITHOUT HAVING TO GO TO ANOTHER PROGRAM!!!

You don't have the level of control of something like Peak, but that's generally not of concern for why you'd want to burn a CD for reference. Sooo "Bounce and Burn" in a single operation.

Back to the plugins.... TWO NEW plugins including:

ProVerb which is a convolution reverb with possibly in the thousands of impulse responses. Personally, I don't feel the reverb sounds great (hey, I'm used to TLSpace for my ProTools HD3 Accel system)....but it's certainly quite good. BUT to be fair, I'm listening through an array of JBL VRX912's as opposed to studio monitors--although the space I'm in is better acoustically than just about any other studio. BUT to others, they might say it sounds great depending on their experience. Hey, it's free---and useable! You can use any audio file as the source for the impulse response, by the way.

And back to the LA2A plugin called "Masterworks Leveler". GREAT PLUGIN, guys---and it's free! I've worked with the real thing a lot, and several emulation plugins in my PTHD system. While I've heard better, it really is a good plugin and again--it's FREE!

Okay, all I have time (and energy!) to write about so I'm cutting it off now..... GUYS, YOU NEED THIS UPGRADE! And if you've been on the fence of switching from another program to DP or you've been looking into it for the first time, I can honestly tell you that this is one kick-butt interface and program. If I weren't such a strong ProTools guy, this would be my main program of choice. I will be getting further into DP on my laptop, but plan on a MacPro later in the year with a full DP rig as well as my HD rig on the Creation Station.

FREE UPGRADE to those that bought DP5 after Jan 1st until the date of shipping. As to availability---possibly within the next month. They originally gave an ETA of first quarter, but they want to get it right---and they've added some new features that have really made it worthwhile. As to the upgrade cost for those that have been on DP5 prior to Jan 1st, my guess would be the standard $149ish but not sure on that.

Thanks for reading, I hope this helps even if just a tiny bit. By the way, Magic Dave says a big hello and thank you for your support! :D
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Post by buzzsmith »

Thanks for taking the time to post this, Brad...looking forward to the DP 6 release.

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Wow, can't wait - within the month sounds sooo good. Thanks for the report, Brad.
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Post by kassonica »

WHOA :D

Thanks for the share Brad.

Much of what you have shared has been out there a while is there anything you can share or hint that isn't.

New VI's or something/anything.

I do like your description though of the new interface and it's ease of use, I too like 'tools' interface for it's simplicity.

Most exciting and next months 'possible' :wink: release date sits with my prediction.

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Post by FutureLegends »

I want it NOW!
I expect my new Mac Pro 8-core any day now. Would have been so sweet not having to install DP5 on it ;-)

But when it's here it feels like I'll be in DAW heaven. Going from ah G4 to a Mac Pro and DP6. Woohoo!

cheers

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Post by BradLyons »

Kassonica,

I don't really keep up with manufacturer ads or talk---I only keep up with what I keep up with, so to speak 8) So I don't know what's been out and I assumed that there would be more information out there than what I've shared--but I'm just providing my personal feedback of having DP in front of me on a screen that is about 24ft wide by 18ft high 8) IN other words, a personal perspective as opposed to spec'd manufacturer information. IN OTHER WORDS, THIS PROTOOLS GUY REALLY LIKES IT! :lol:
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BradLyons wrote:Kassonica,

I don't really keep up with manufacturer ads or talk---I only keep up with what I keep up with, so to speak 8) So I don't know what's been out and I assumed that there would be more information out there than what I've shared--but I'm just providing my personal feedback of having DP in front of me on a screen that is about 24ft wide by 18ft high 8) IN other words, a personal perspective as opposed to spec'd manufacturer information. IN OTHER WORDS, THIS PROTOOLS GUY REALLY LIKES IT! :lol:
I had to try :D

But you have given me 2 vital (new) bits of info interface and release date timeframe which has made my day.

Much thanks and beer to you good sir

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Yes!!!

Thanks, Brad.
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Post by TOD »

Thanks Brad!

At we least we know MOTU is hard at work and 30 days great, (at least we have another traget to look forward too).
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And I want to be clear that the a month is just a possibility, NOT a guarantee. They want it right---and if it takes longer to do it right, I think we can all respect that. So there is a balance of "hope" v/s "reality". For any of you that write code, you know what that madness is. :twisted:
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BradLyons wrote:And I want to be clear that the a month is just a possibility, NOT a guarantee. They want it right---and if it takes longer to do it right, I think we can all respect that. So there is a balance of "hope" v/s "reality". For any of you that write code, you know what that madness is. :twisted:
+1

I'm a patient man when it comes to goodness and DP is sweet goodness.

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Post by kgdrum »

Brad: thanks for the info but can you answer the more important question,is it snappier?
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kgdrum wrote:Brad: thanks for the info but can you answer the more important question,is it snappier?
OH YEAH, again---back to the "clean interface".
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Post by bOing »

So you're saying: "keep your Altiverb?"

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Post by pencilina »

Brad,
Thanks for the info. Any word on system requirements yet?
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