Waves is truly NUTS!

[FMiguelez]

Yeah, that's what I mean. Like when I bought MS's Office, and Windows, I bought them once at regular price, and then I bought additional licenses MUCH cheaper! (I must be the ONLY Mexican with legit copies of Windows/Office)

Now were talking. Comparing Waves to Microsoft if brilliant...

I know. But I haven't had these problems even with Microsoft!!

Well, it depends. My PCs can be (and have been a few times) a REAL nightmare, but they are PCs after all. What else could I expect? I can not get apples out of an orange tree.

But I had more expectations about Waves.

When you find a company that goes out of their way to please the customer, it makes such a HUGE difference. Like this guy from Iced Audio. I mean, he's a one man operation, and he fixes bugs the second they are reported. He takes a few days, or a couple of weeks in the worst case scenario. Before I bought Audio Finder I read some posts in the forum, and all I found was happy, thankful and loyal customers.
And he's ONE guy who programs, develops, takes time to find out from his customers what they want to see in future upgrades, etc.
JUST LIKE WAVES...

[HeadMaster]

OT:

Get a cheap "mac pro" here then,

http://www.psystar.com/shop/openmac.html

Haven't tried them meself, but I am totally GASed on them.

. . .
HM

[FMiguelez]

OT:

Get a cheap "mac pro" here then,

http://www.psystar.com/shop/openmac.html

Haven't tried them meself, but I am totally GASed on them.

. . .
HM

Thanks, HeadMaster, but no thanks
Can you imagine dealing with a Mac (the OS part) that behaves like a PC (the box)????

It would be like Aria Giovanni behaving like Rosie O'Donell (or however you spell her name)

[wheever]

It would be like Aria Giovanni behaving like Rosie O'Donell (or however you spell her name)

Ooh. Aria. She can behave like anyone she wants for me...

[FMiguelez]

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[beautypill]

Back on topic:

Let's play a game: mention a Waves plug-in and I'll bet you I (or someone else on this board) can name you an equivalent or superior alternative from another company.

Let's try it.

Please note: I don't check the internet as often as some people do, so I may be slow to respond during some time periods.

- c

[FMiguelez]

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Ok. I'll play.

ENIGMA is one I can think of. What's the replacement?

[kwiz]

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Ok. I'll play.

ENIGMA is one I can think of. What's the replacement?

Sound Toys Filter Freak!!! It's pretty sick.

[FMiguelez]

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Hmmm... Seems great, but are you sure it does the same things Enigma does? I couldn't judge by just looking at it or its description...

[beautypill]

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Ok. I'll play.

ENIGMA is one I can think of. What's the replacement?

Ha! You're a smart man, starting off with one of the more unusual/exotic offerings.

Hmm...

Well, I would say that Enigma is in the hallucinogenic/delay-and-filter based family of effects. And if that's your interest, I would send you here and here. One is European, the other American.

Both of these cool companies make weird, trippy psychedelic, delay-and-filter based effects that are similar in application to Enigma, but better-sounding sonically. Both are much more up-to-date. (Fabfilter's filter designs are insanely smooth and sophisticated and Audio Damage has some kind of magic fairy dust in their code).

Most importantly, both companies are cooler and kinder than Waves.

Next?

I told you I'm difficult to stump...

Waves has outlived their usefulness in 2008.

- c

[beautypill]

And, yeah, Soundtoys stuff is great too, along similar lines.

Admittedely no single plug-in is exactly like Enigma. But it's an inferior tool, in my opinion. My personal opinion: Enigma is kinda plastic-sounding compared to its much more modern indie competitors.

You can get much more interesting, compelling sounds elsewhere.

- c

[FMiguelez]

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How about Doppler?

[beautypill]

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How about Doppler?

So you wanna play rough, huh?



Check this out.

- c

[FMiguelez]

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Also, I know there must be replacements for these, but are they as good??

S1
PS22

[beautypill]

You are talking to a man who legally owns (or has tried) nearly every legitimate plug-in in the world*, including the dreaded Waves Mercury bundle.

I know what I'm talking about.

Waves is waaaaay over-rated in the sound quality field. They have been lazy and obsessed with money, not innovation. Market dominance does not mean better quality.

As a company Waves are no longer on the cutting edge.

The single exception is the API package, which I admitted earlier on this thread is truly extraordinary.

I'm serious about this: Waves is not the ruling class anymore. That stopped being the case many years ago.

You just have to open your eyes to the smarter, hipper, more dedicated competition. They're smaller companies... it's kind of like the worldwide Microbrewphenomenon that started to blossom about fifteen years ago, where the smaller companies produce higher quality beer because of devoting more love and attention to the product.

In addition to better sound quality (remember: most plug-in makers are obsessives), the business practices of these smaller companies is much more respectful to the user. They treat you like a human being because they are. This is extremely important. Just as important as sound quality, in some cases.

There's lots of innovation going on these days that has nothing to do with the Waves behemoth.

- c

p.s. *Okay, maybe it's a bit of an exaggeration to say that I have every plug-in in the world. But I have a lot of them and I've spent a lot of time listening. I like the concept of modular digital transfiguration.