DP 6 upgrade price..

mgmediaworks · Post by **mgmediaworks** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:22 pm

i looked through a few pages..but did not see it... has no one asked how much for a DP6 upgrade from DP5..... and what about the plug-ins.. especially MODEL 12 maybe make it like Reason redrum on Logics Ultrabeat.......Right Click... All I saw I really loved so far was the Vertical zoom.. Virtual tracks maybe like Logic and Cubase?.. or did i really miss these threads.. truth is I had no idea of DP6 till I saw a review today in a magazine..

Frodo · Post by **Frodo** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:41 pm

$195 was at least the upgrade for DP5.

More info on DP6:

http://www.motunation.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25976

Also:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_q ... erformer+6

Model 12 has been around for a while. It was Electric Keys that got the VI buzz this time around:

http://www.motu.com/products/software/electrickeys/

mgmediaworks · Post by **mgmediaworks** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:24 pm

love the burn to Cd function..with index points.. no more VST to audio then bounce.. now its straight bounce in mix.... so far so good.. now all i need is the audition audio file in Model 12 and Ill be set.... STILL DISAGREE ON WHY I SHOULD USE A BROWSER LIKE AUDIOFINDER TO LOOK FOR SAMPLES THEN BRING INTO DP..

Frodo · Post by **Frodo** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:29 pm

mgmediaworks wrote:.... STILL DISAGREE ON WHY I SHOULD USE A BROWSER LIKE AUDIOFINDER TO LOOK FOR SAMPLES THEN BRING INTO DP..

What method would you prefer?

mgmediaworks · Post by **mgmediaworks** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:36 pm

ever used Reason?.. Redrum,NN19 and nn-xt sampler..when your looking for sounds in your library as you click on them to load .. they play....and then you hit the Load Button.....I get pissed looking through all my drums sounds.. loading up all these million kicks and then playing each one, one at a time.. . in MODEL 12.. you have to load it then play it.. DUMB..is it not? or did i miss something..?.. is just boggles me how such a simple function is not available..

Frodo · Post by **Frodo** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:53 pm

I've dinked with Ableton Live and appreciated being able to audition sounds in a Finder-like menu. That was pretty cool.

Well, it's one step at a time, I guess. One thing MOTU doesn't seem to have is the extensive libraries that many of us have, so sound library management for them might be coming from a different perspective. Not defending it, just trying to understand it.

I could be wrong about this, too, because while I'm very aware of Unisyn (never used it) I've also wondered why it wasn't bundled into DP for the same reasons-- if it makes workflow that much smoother overall. Neither is it quite clear just how far DP6 will go with this on its own, or whether Unisyn will receive an update worthy of DP6 that meets or blows away sample organizational methods of Reason, Redrum, Live, and others.

I guess one of the things I wasn't ready to think about was how DP6 might fall short. It was honestly unthinkable for me-- still is in a lot of ways-- but I won't kid myself either. In another thread I mentioned the agony of tempering my hopes with reality while at the same time having to keep my DAW needs caged up.

This may not be as easy as I'd hoped-- so I'm taking my deep breath now.

And who knows? DP6 is a little behind its time. Could it be that MOTU has been adding such improvements we're talking about since the NAMM show? There's always room for a pleasant surprise.

We watch and wait.

michkhol · Post by **michkhol** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:38 pm

For what it's worth, Logic 8 half-dropped the ability to play files in its browser comparing to version 7. You cannot do it from the upper part of the browser but you can from the lower part with selected files before you add them to the project. There was a lot of complaints...

Dwetmaster · Post by **Dwetmaster** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:53 pm

mgmediaworks wrote:ever used Reason?.. Redrum,NN19 and nn-xt sampler..when your looking for sounds in your library as you click on them to load .. they play....and then you hit the Load Button.....I get pissed looking through all my drums sounds.. loading up all these million kicks and then playing each one, one at a time.. . in MODEL 12.. you have to load it then play it.. DUMB..is it not? or did i miss something..?.. is just boggles me how such a simple function is not available..

I got one word for you...

AUDIOFINDER

Find the sound you want and drag/Drop to Model12

Guitar Gaz · Post by **Guitar Gaz** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:48 pm

Just keep on using Reason with rewire - thats what I do. Having setup Model 12 as a scratchpad drum set I still find it easier to use my customised drum set in a Reason NNXT sampler (spread across the keys how I like it). Model 12 is okay but none of the VI's with DP are as good as Reason. But its nice to have them - even if a bit basic (but thats probably the idea isn't it?).

PeterMcCStrat · Post by **PeterMcCStrat** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:14 pm

Frodo wrote:
mgmediaworks wrote:.... STILL DISAGREE ON WHY I SHOULD USE A BROWSER LIKE AUDIOFINDER TO LOOK FOR SAMPLES THEN BRING INTO DP..
What method would you prefer?

This was a surprise to me as well, with a million samples and libraries I am so spoiled by the Nuendo Mediabay and Logics browser.
They really help tie things together for me.

I've felt for a while,.. what good is a million samples and loops if you can't get to them quickly.

It would be a great asset to DP, if it were say,.. added to the sidebar.
ya know?
open it when you need it, audition,.drag in from it. close it,...move on.
yada yada
who knows, maybe 6.1?
PMcC

Frodo · Post by **Frodo** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 6:04 pm

PeterMcCStrat wrote:
Frodo wrote:
mgmediaworks wrote:.... STILL DISAGREE ON WHY I SHOULD USE A BROWSER LIKE AUDIOFINDER TO LOOK FOR SAMPLES THEN BRING INTO DP..
What method would you prefer?
This was a surprise to me as well, with a million samples and libraries I am so spoiled by the Nuendo Mediabay and Logics browser.
They really help tie things together for me.

I've felt for a while,.. what good is a million samples and loops if you can't get to them quickly.

It would be a great asset to DP, if it were say,.. added to the sidebar.
ya know?
open it when you need it, audition,.drag in from it. close it,...move on.
yada yada
who knows, maybe 6.1?
PMcC

Oh, I don't disagree one bit. I'm 100% all for it.

The problem is that the end user to some extent has to deal with the limits of the developer's concept of what is needed at any given time. I'm not saying that developers, such as MOTU in this case, do not listen to their users-- but when a so-called "improved" feature is announced as a step up but doesn't go quite far enough in the face of what other developers are doing, it's a sticky wicket.

Indeed, Peter, we may not see a second improvement until 6.1 or later (even v7!!).

But even as we consider how other developers have made media browsing more functional, I thought it was fitting to ask what DP users in particular preferred-- where other developers may have fallen short of the mark in the same regard.

The longer we wait to make our requests known to MOTU, the longer it will take for them to incorporate the functionality we'd like to have.

crufty · Post by **crufty** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:52 am

I noticed the electronic keys kit had a really nice MIDI learn screenshot.

Hope?

Timeline · Post by **Timeline** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:55 am

I'll be happy if just threading is improved.

crufty · Post by **crufty** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:40 am

For what it's worth, I liked model 12. However, it is very difficult to setup remote controllers to work with it. AND, and I thought this was nearly inexcusable, the dp's own drum maps doesn't come with defaults for model 12.

What I mean is if you select a model 12 drum kit, the associated grid views don't update to reflect the new kit. Ok, so that's asking for a bit much I guess. BUT--there weren't defaults to manually select the new kit. ptthpt.

I think dp's grid (not really just for drums) is the best there is. Better then logic, reason, etc.

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