DP6 Masterworks Leveler

Tares · Post by **Tares** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:22 pm

Is this new plugin meant to be a replacement/upgrade for the Masterworks Limiter?? or is it more a high quality channel compressor instead.

Because if this thing is based on the LA2A I don't think I could ever use it on the 2-Buss, I know some people use the LA2A that way. For me, on individual channels like Bass, Vocals, etc.. they're spectacular but I just never liked what it does on an entire mix very limited controls for such a major task. So what will this thing be? or is DP's version different that it could be used at the 2-buss?

kwiz · Post by **kwiz** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 11:19 pm

I don't think they'd ditch the MW limiter. This is just an additional plugin that they're adding to the arsenal. Very much like how they added the pattern gate and the VI's when they came out with DP5.xx.

mhschmieder · Post by **mhschmieder** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 11:38 pm

Good to know that it's new vs. an upgrade or replacement for the MasterWorks Limiter.

If it's as good as MasterWorks EQ and PatternGate, it'll be worth the upgrade price alone. I can't live without either plug.

I didn't realise PatternGate was so new; I just figured I hadn't discovered it until last year. I use it all the time, as it saves me tremendous time when I'm working on cover tunes and don't have time to delve into yet another synth's step sequencer and virtual patcher or related algorithms to get at that synth's pattern gate capabilities. It also gives me higher quality results

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I do still hope they'll rework the earlier MasterWorks plugins at some point though, to bring them up to the quality of the newer ones. Does anyone know if there are any remakes in the DP 6 release, or just newbies?

chrispick · Post by **chrispick** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:04 am

Tares wrote:Because if this thing is based on the LA2A I don't think I could ever use it on the 2-Buss, I know some people use the LA2A that way.

I would say that using an LA2A or any old school opto comp on the 2-buss is pretty unconventional. Traditionally, it's used on voice and acoustic instrument tracks. I imagine the new DP leveler will follow suit.

mhschmieder · Post by **mhschmieder** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:20 am

Yes, I think the "MasterWorks" designation confuses people into thinking these plugs are all intended for the 2-buss; whereas I think the intent is more that these are "elite" plug-ins meant to compete with third-party stuff.

I don't use the MW EQ on the 2-buss either, but use it on literally ALL of my individual tracks and stems. My impression is that this is true of most people on this forum who have discussed that plug.

JosÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â© Herring · Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:20 am

Yeah I'd go with an SSL master bus compressor over the master bus, and use a completely transparent limiter just to prevent clipping on tracks that need to be slammin'.

Also good to use is the Oxford Inflator but it does color the overall mix a bit too much for my taste.

I think the LA2A might be good for parallel or two stage compression. Does anybody have an opinion on that?

best,

Jose

kwiz · Post by **kwiz** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 8:32 am

JosÃ© Herring wrote:Yeah I'd go with an SSL master bus compressor over the master bus, and use a completely transparent limiter just to prevent clipping on tracks that need to be slammin'.

Also good to use is the Oxford Inflator but it does color the overall mix a bit too much for my taste.

I think the LA2A might be good for parallel or two stage compression. Does anybody have an opinion on that?

best,

Jose

I've use it for two stage compression sometimes with great results but for parallel comp., I tend to use the 1176 which allows me more control on how I slam the signal.

timriley · Post by **timriley** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:55 am

This is how the MW Leveler is described in the DP6 review in Sound-on-Sound magazine!

MasterWorks Leveler, a MAS emulation of a Teletronix LA-2A limiter ••” or, actually, four switchable LA2As of different vintages and specs

Tritonemusic · Post by **Tritonemusic** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:06 pm

chrispick wrote:I would say that using an LA2A or any old school opto comp on the 2-buss is pretty unconventional. Traditionally, it's used on voice and acoustic instrument tracks. I imagine the new DP leveler will follow suit.

Hey Chris,

I was under the same impression as you. Still, Magic Dave seems to think it's a great tool that can be used on the 2-buss. Here is a link from youtube.com. It's Magic Dave explaining the MasterWorks Leveler:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0E8wafy ... re=related

What do you think? I really don't know what to think....

I guess all will be answered when I get to try it for myself.

monkey man · Post by **monkey man** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:30 pm

Hey '6, good to see you're still kicking goals.
Your new avatar's almost as pretty as the last one too.

What you say is good news to me, 'cause I was figuring on using MasterWorks Leveler along with MWEQ on the master buss.
Hey, if the best free plugs happen to be MOTU...

Of course, I'll not shut up about the fact that I'd still like a guitar amp and cab sim, more and updated VIs (esp. a brass and B&B module) that push boundaries, updated plugs, an NR plug/facility etc.
Then, I'll shut up and make music 'till I puke.

Tritonemusic · Post by **Tritonemusic** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 1:17 pm

monkey man wrote:What you say is good news to me, 'cause I was figuring on using MasterWorks Leveler along with MWEQ on the master buss.

I particularly liked the part where MagicD said the the Leveler doesn't destroy the high end (those are my own words...check the link for an accurate description).

As far as my avatars; I've been using only images from one of my favorite movies, "Vampyr" (1932) by Carl Theodor Dreyer. I don't know how long I can milk it, but I will do my best to make it last.

mhschmieder · Post by **mhschmieder** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 1:43 pm

When you run out of images from that Classic, you can switch over to scenes from the French silent movie version of Joan of Arc. About as haunting as it gets, in spite of the low tech.

Tritonemusic · Post by **Tritonemusic** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:03 pm

mhschmieder wrote:When you run out of images from that Classic, you can switch over to scenes from the French silent movie version of Joan of Arc. About as haunting as it gets, in spite of the low tech.

How right you are. A forum member, Richard Einhorn, composed the music for that film. It fits perfectly.

Both, "Vampyr" and "The Passion of Joan of Arc" are in my top five films of all time.

P.S. I'm REALLY sorry for drifting so far off topic but I couldn't help myself...

chrispick · Post by **chrispick** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:27 pm

666 wrote:
mhschmieder wrote:When you run out of images from that Classic, you can switch over to scenes from the French silent movie version of Joan of Arc. About as haunting as it gets, in spite of the low tech.
How right you are. A forum member, Richard Einhorn, composed the music for that film. It fits perfectly.

Both, "Vampyr" and "The Passion of Joan of Arc" are in my top five films of all time.

P.S. I'm REALLY sorry for drifting so far off topic but I couldn't help myself...

Ever seen Haxan (1922)? It's a goodie.

chrispick · Post by **chrispick** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:41 pm

666 wrote:
chrispick wrote:I would say that using an LA2A or any old school opto comp on the 2-buss is pretty unconventional. Traditionally, it's used on voice and acoustic instrument tracks. I imagine the new DP leveler will follow suit.
Hey Chris,

I was under the same impression as you. Still, Magic Dave seems to think it's a great tool that can be used on the 2-buss. Here is a link from youtube.com. It's Magic Dave explaining the MasterWorks Leveler:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0E8wafy ... re=related

What do you think? I really don't know what to think....

Well, looking at this clip -- The DP leveler does seem to be a good bit more flexible than an LA2A in terms of release speeds and such. So, maybe it could work on the 2-buss in some cases. If so, all the better for everyone.

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