Melodyne DNA â€” you've gotta watch this!

zed · Post by **zed** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 4:11 pm

Well put, beautypill. And a very good point about the patents pending. This is revolutionary stuff.

nickysnd · Post by **nickysnd** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 6:09 pm

beautypill wrote:I don't know why any of this is "highly suspect" to you. Let me attempt to make it a little bit less sinister.

1. The technology is in its infancy, it's not yet ready to sell.

2. They have had some lab breakthroughs, but there are still some challenges to overcome.

3. There is a lot of coding to do. This is new terrain.

4. They recognize all of the above but they have enough confidence in their trajectory to announce what they have discovered.

5. They want to announce this now because (a) they are excited, (b) the designer is proud, (c) it's extremely difficult to keep a discovery like this under wraps in 2008, so it's better to control the release of the information yourself (d) they are applying for patents and thus want to make clear to all of the international patent offices they have to deal with that they arrived at this concept first; the smartest way to do this is to announce it publicly in a manner which cannot be denied later.

6. The video is designed to advertise the product and so, yes, they are only showing the product in its best light. It makes sense for them to show the product working successfully. No conspiracy here. It's called capitalism.

7. The product will have limitations and artifacts. Some of these will disappear over time as the product gets refined. Celemony knows this and presumes that any smart consumer knows this as well.

There's nothing highly suspect about any of it.

... except for only one thing: are you working for Celomony?

beautypill · Post by **beautypill** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:47 pm

Damn! You got me. I'm Peter Neubacker, chief designer of Melodyne. Beauty Pill's just my pseudonym and not at all the name of a band from Washington, DC.

- c

jeff sanders · Post by **jeff sanders** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:59 am

OldTimey wrote:great news for lazy musicians everywhere

a lazy musician would record the track and not do anything to improve the sound. this takes extra time to do. makes no sense to say 'great news for lazy musicians everywhere'.
enjoy

jeff sanders · Post by **jeff sanders** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:06 pm

thanks for sharing thats pretty amazing.

dosuna11 · Post by **dosuna11** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:25 pm

[quote="David Polich"
But I digress. Anyone can scoff at Melodyne, but I'm gonna buy it, and I'm gonna use it.[/quote]

Yes!

nickysnd · Post by **nickysnd** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 1:02 pm

jeff sanders wrote:
OldTimey wrote:great news for lazy musicians everywhere
a lazy musician would record the track and not do anything to improve the sound. this takes extra time to do. makes no sense to say 'great news for lazy musicians everywhere'.
enjoy

That's correct when you assume that the lazy musicians are supposed to edit themselves their lousy takes. Usually sound editors do that. Lazy musicians just play.

beautypill · Post by **beautypill** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:44 am

Sadly, in the last couple of weeks Allaire Studios announced that they are closing down. This is the grandest of the Upstate New York residential, luxury studios. A noble but dying breed, to be sure.

This provoked an iChat conversation between myself and my friend John, who is a fellow studio owner. John's studio is in San Francisco and is successful and well-regarded on the West Coast.

We were talking about advancing technology and how studios are closing every day and what all of this will mean to the future of music. Y'know, that conversation. The conversation we've all been having for the last decade and, in particular, the last two years as the Ice Age, whatever form it will take, has begun to seriously encroach.

Anyway, at some point, I mentioned "the whole Melodyne craziness" and he said "What Melodyne craziness?" and I said "You haven't heard about it?" and he just shrugged. I said "Dude, you're not going to believe this..."

Telling him about it and watching his face react was immensely pleasurable to me. I mean, how many times in your life do you really get to deliver news that blows your friend's mind?

He was incredulous. He looked at me and just kept saying stuff like "NO! That is impossible!"

He kept insisting that I must have misunderstood the concept because, in his words, "That would be actual magic, Chad. That's not even science anymore, that's just magic."

Then, by way of proof that I wasn't making this all up, I sent him a link to the video. I watched his face on iChat as he watched it.

His only comment:

"Wow. The future is going to be so twisted."

Priceless.

- c

toodamnhip · Post by **toodamnhip** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:30 pm

Twisted the future will indeed be..
But the point is, it is being "twisted" by a creative, think outside the box, spiritual being..which is what we are all!

We are all here to impinge upon this world and create..and... as long as it is not intentionally harmful, this is ok.,and the way of the world..

We all have to make a place for ourselves in this world and if live musicians, studios, guys who play in tune etc.. want to stay around, they have to impinge and make it desirable for their presence to be needed and wanted..
It is up to all of us to be here and make our presence felt and known...

Peter from Melodyne is a shinning example of a BEING having an impact on the world...and it is all the more interesting that he is merging technical into the creative world..
I love this and have no complaints..if musicians become dinosaurs..it might be sad, but it will only be because they didn;t create something to ensure they stayed around longer...

I'm sure the Dinosaurs were plenty pissed off..but how many of us cry for them today?..lol

There are many points about the unfairness of it all, many valid points about how our music is being stolen. I myself have songs on the radio being stolen...But look at this guy Peter..he is making something amazing happen!
We all need to take a cue from such a being, person, creator etc..

I guess I'm preaching a bit..but not really..Im just pointing out what we all know deep down inside..we have it in us to get off our booty's and create special things..Just like Peter from Melodyne..Whoopeee...lol

beautypill · Post by **beautypill** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:52 pm

toodamnhip wrote:Twisted the future will indeed be..
But the point is, it is being "twisted" by a creative, think outside the box, spiritual being..which is what we are all!

We are all here to who impinge upon this world and create..and as long as it is not intentionally harmful, this is ok.,and the way of the world..

We all have to make a place for ourselves in this world and if live musicians, studios, guys who play in tune etc.. want to stay around, they have to impinge and make it desirable for their presence to be needed and wanted..
It is up to all of us to be here and make our presence felt and known...

Peter from Melodyne is a shinning example of a being having an impact on the world...and it is all the more interesting that he is merging technical into the creative world..
I love this and have no complaints..if musicians become dinosaurs..it might be sad, but it will only be because they didn;t create something tp stay around longer...

There are many points about the unfairness of it all, many valid points about how our music is being stolen. I myself have songs on the radio being stolen...But look at this guy Peter..he is making something amazing happen!
We all need to take a cue from such a being, person, creator etc..

I guess I'm preaching a bit..but not really..Im just pointing out what we all know deep down inside..we have it in us to get off our booty's and create special things..Just like Peter from Melodyne..Whoopeee...lol

I agree with all of the above completely.

- c

Tim · Post by **Tim** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:05 pm

philbrown wrote:Now somebody can finally tune that guitar solo in Takin' Care of Business.
'bout time.

I look forward to that whenever that song comes on.

Tim · Post by **Tim** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:10 pm

kassonica wrote:

Damn it I'm gonna buy the company and never let anyone use it.

Didn't Digi try that a while back?

Frodo · Post by **Frodo** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:25 pm

bongo_x wrote: I think the Lord of the Rings movies are a giant exception.

OT, but that thought warms my heart for some reason.

kassonica · Post by **kassonica** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:07 pm

Tim wrote:
kassonica wrote:

Damn it I'm gonna buy the company and never let anyone use it.
Didn't Digi try that a while back?

Indeed

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Melodyne DNA â€” you've gotta watch this!

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