The DP6 Countdown Thread

toodamnhip · Post by **toodamnhip** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:01 pm

martian wrote:
toodamnhip wrote:How about this?

When one edits the soundbite level, the waveform should Shrink as I lower the bite volume...or expand as I raise it.

I always have to guess how many db when there is a word punched that is louder. If the waveform shrunk or expanded as I added or subtracted Db's from the 'bite" vol, it would be most helpful!

I could see my edit and be more accurate..it's not that I can't guess DB;s. but this feature would really be helpful.
it does. if you use the clip sound bite gain ( as opposed to volume) just split the sounbites in the quiet and then set soundbite clip gain ( assign a keystroke for it! )

DP 6 - I just hope they fix what they broke in the leap from 5.11 to 5.12 - I'm stuck in 5.11 because I use DP almost exclusively with firewire video and the quicktime offset is not stable for PAL systems after they added the "party streamers" output thru the firewire

I just won't be upgrading until this issue is fixed.... it would be a waste of my cash!

I think you are saying that the soundbite gets bigger or smaller AFTER the gain change has been applied by merging the file,,,

But while one is adjust the bite gain. the waveforms size does NOT change. This is what I want, i want it to change WHILE adjusting the bite gain to reflect the change IN REAL TIME as I apply gain change. After I merge the new gain amount it is too late..that doesn;t really help any.
REALTIME WAVESIZE CHANGE AS ONE APPLIES BITE GAIN CHANGE.

Mr_Clifford · Post by **Mr_Clifford** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:40 pm

toodamnhip wrote: I think you are saying that the soundbite gets bigger or smaller AFTER the gain change has been applied by merging the file,,,

But while one is adjust the bite gain. the waveforms size does NOT change. This is what I want, i want it to change WHILE adjusting the bite gain to reflect the change IN REAL TIME as I apply gain change. After I merge the new gain amount it is too late..that doesn;t really help any.
REALTIME WAVESIZE CHANGE AS ONE APPLIES BITE GAIN CHANGE.

The waveform on mine gets bigger when I change the bite gain, WITHOUT HAVING TO MERGE (sorry, couldn't resist yelling). I do it via the 'set bite gain' dialogue box though (I type in an amount in dB). Maybe you're using one of the other methods of changing the bite gain.

toodamnhip · Post by **toodamnhip** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:05 am

Mr_Clifford wrote:
toodamnhip wrote: I think you are saying that the soundbite gets bigger or smaller AFTER the gain change has been applied by merging the file,,,

But while one is adjust the bite gain. the waveforms size does NOT change. This is what I want, i want it to change WHILE adjusting the bite gain to reflect the change IN REAL TIME as I apply gain change. After I merge the new gain amount it is too late..that doesn;t really help any.
REALTIME WAVESIZE CHANGE AS ONE APPLIES BITE GAIN CHANGE.
The waveform on mine gets bigger when I change the bite gain, WITHOUT HAVING TO MERGE (sorry, couldn't resist yelling). I do it via the 'set bite gain' dialogue box though (I type in an amount in dB). Maybe you're using one of the other methods of changing the bite gain.

That's weird..I verified what you said, it does change size..which leads me to ask...
What's the difference between set bite gain in the dialogue and adjusting the bite volume in the TO window. I use a key command to adjust the bite volume in the TO window and the waveform doesn;t change..

Funny, if you use set bite gain in the dialogue like you say, the bite volume does not change in the TO window..this means these are 2 different things..I am confused..So, anyone know the difference?
Anyway, I still want the waveform to change in realtime every time I click a plus or minus amount on BITE VOLUME...
even your way is an after the fact scenario..you set bite gain and the waveform changes AFTER..if you were doing 1/2 db adjustments and saw the waveform growing or shrinking, you'd be happier...then you couldstart your adjustment with a visual cue.

martian · Post by **martian** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:33 am

Hi MLC

think you are talking about the bite volume - you can trim them up and down -

the other function - and more useful I think is soundbite clip gain - this affects whole bite and you may trim form -99 to plus 80!!!

with the sound bite clip gain once you enter the number - the whole clip waveform does scale as you said - no need to merge - it shows you immediately

a great function that allows fast levels for an entire clip

martian · Post by **martian** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:41 am

oops I was away between starting to post and actually finishing posting...

one of them is the bites volume curve - which is a handy feature - it's sorta just a fader move that is "pre chanel fader" and is locked to the clip and that's the one you are trimming with your default key command

I wished the incremental trim feature you are talking about applied to the soundbite clip gain...

( it'd be great if I could add say 3dB to a collection of clips - but as it satnds it's just an absolute value)

also whilst theya re at it could they not have the sound bite gain in the mini info ( in out duration ) on the top left corner of SE - ( just next to the quick veiw filter?)

This would be real handy for people like me..

toodamnhip · Post by **toodamnhip** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:57 am

Another needed fix in DP 6 would be that when in the pitch window, DP knows what the user has highlighted and can zoom in on it.
In all other windows, if you click on a spot, for example. on a tiny piece of a waveform or a volume breakpoint, you can then hit zoom and the computer zooms exactly in on that. In the pitch window, click a pitch and hit zoom and DP instead zooms to the bar beat location you are parked at...

I WOULD love to click a tiny piece of pitch info and hit zoom and have DP go to that exact location...now, I have to highlight that areas location in the bar beats, time bar to get DP to zoom to that location..this wastes a lot of time.

misterhemi · Post by **misterhemi** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:19 pm

Shooshie wrote:
fokof wrote:Just hope it's not gonna be as long as Mach5II or as an MX4 update (last update 2006!!!! )
Or Unisyn. Last updated in April, 2004. (and it could desperately use a complete overhaul. Or is there anyone left who still uses rack gear? You know... those metal boxes with buttons on the front panels that have 80's sounding instruments inside with names like PercFlute, Farcheesa, or SynFunkBas? No? Nobody? well, never mind...)

Shooshie

Well.... I use A LOT of hardware....

I really wish there were an update or some decent alternative to Unisyn...

I just sold my VariOS but still have the following pieces of hardware (i'm not so fond of VI's I must admit)...

Ensoniq SQ80, Yamaha CS6x, DSI Poly Evolver kbd, DSI Evolver desktop, Kawai K5, Roland R8m, Akai Z4, and a Yamaha DX200.

I plan to eventually add MORE hardware in the form of a Linn Drum II Analog and Voyager and/or Prophet 08.

bOing · Post by **bOing** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:33 pm

Shooshie wrote:I plan to eventually add MORE hardware in the form of a Linn Drum II Analog and Voyager and/or Prophet 08.

I use a lot of VIs out of necessity, but I admit that I haven't heard a VI that sounds anywhere near as warm and fuzzy as my old Korg 01Wfd.

DP VIs could use some more TLC - especially that drum machine. Eek!

J.Daniels · Post by **J.Daniels** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:14 am

Id love to see MOTU further develop POLAR. Its the basis of every project i do, and i would love to see some more creative features added(but still kept simple).

A nice dr-rex style one shot sampler/chopper would be nice too.

monkey man · Post by **monkey man** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:52 am

misterhemi wrote:
The Shooshmeister wrote:... Or is there anyone left who still uses rack gear? You know... those metal boxes with buttons on the front panels that have 80's sounding instruments inside with names like PercFlute, Farcheesa, or SynFunkBas? No? Nobody? well, never mind...)
Shooshie
Well.... I use A LOT of hardware.....

... and I ONLY use hardware mixed "live" in DP.

Nice gear, Mr. Hemi.
Geez... what I could do with that lot...

Just generic ROMpler-style boxes over here.
At least they work with any OS.

nk_e · Post by **nk_e** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:22 am

W H E N W I L L T H E Y C H A N G E T H E W E B S I T E ? ? ? ?

Figure that would at least be a sign it's getting close...only 12 days left if they are going to keep to their schedule....

(whimper)

monkey man · Post by **monkey man** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:45 am

Well, they're still saying, "Digital Performer 5.12 Now Shipping", so I wouldn't hold my breath.

Timeline · Post by **Timeline** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 5:30 am

I say do to the strangeness of the new 8 cores, December '08.

monkey man · Post by **monkey man** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:20 am

LOL!

Hey Gary, I've found a way to get the machine to run purrfectly...
Limit its use to UnicorNation.

Mind you, the 'net's still glitchy.
I'm keeping this baby on ice 'till DP6 gets here, at which point I expect it to rock.

Hopefully 10.5.3 will arrive in time with every glitch, oversight and hiccup... fixed, and no new features!
Hey, I can dream, can't I?

Seriously though, as I said to you in your RAM heat thread, I reckon a clean install of Apple and MOTU only will at least yield my best chance of doing DP6 justice.

aplanchard · Post by **aplanchard** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:55 am

FWIW, I just received the new Sweetwater catalog, which has nice photos of DP6. Not sure what that means in terms of MOTU delivery, but it is nice to see.