very short and accurate delay

[burn em]

I've been looking for a stripped down delay plug-in lately that is accurate to 10,000 or 1000th' of a second and is as low a hit on processing like the AU delay. Doesn't need any settings other than delay and mix. High and low pass might be handy though.

Better still, just add 1 or 2 more decimal points to the au delay. It's so handy for making something just sit 'right' or jump out. Doesn't seem very glamorous, but hell it makes a track or group come alive without really mucking things up.

I know the money and hype is where modulation, distortion and complex multi tap delay plugs are. I don't need any of that stuff much. A simple delay is so powerful there has to be one out there. Motu?

Any takers? The cat's out of the bag.




Burnie

[1nput0utput]

Why not just nudge the soundbites in the track? Use a very small nudge amount (50 to 100 samples).

[Mr_Clifford]

Have you tried the AU sample delay. It's accurate to the sample. I don't think it has any filters or anything, but you could put a Masterworks EQ in front of it.

[Dwetmaster]

Have you tried MOTU's "Buffy"

[burn em]

The AU sample delay is the closest thing so far to what i need, a millisecond readout and mix would have been handy though. Just means a lot more aux tracks

[Kubi]

Just a thought: I doubt that anything can go below sample level. So I doubt any time shift can be *accurately* referenced to anything other than samples.

In other words, at 44.1 kHz, my guess would be you can't nudge something by exactly a millisecond, since that would require nudging it by 44.1 samples. Logic (that's the concept, not the DAW, smartypants...) would seem to dictate you can nudge only by either 44 (which of course would be pretty damn close) or 45 samples. Of course I may be wrong here, there could be a sub-sample level of precision inside the DAW? I somehow doubt it, though.

Just a thought, like I said.

[burn em]

While you are correct kubi, an approximation of delay time would still be handy. I've started using the au sample delay to great effect, it just bugs me with how many aux tracks you end up with.

[digidan]

This has been kicking my ass for years! I have been looking for a simple delay plug in as well. I do a lot of "double" micing of certain sources and want to use a simple delay to time align the resulting tracks. Of course nudging a track is possible, but it is a very inefficient way to do this. Plus the daw don't let you do this on the fly without clicks, pops ,stutters and spurts! Eventide makes one for protools (precision time align) that goes from -10.0 mil to +10.0 mill plus a phase flip. http://www.eventide.com/Home/Eventide/A ... Align.aspx

[musicarteca]

Have you guys tried the Echo plug-in? I think it is exactly what you are looking for. It is a simple delay with gain and mix control, and a resolution in milliseconds (or note values if needed). Just use one of the four delays that can be used in parallel. I use it all the time for vocals, as a pre-delay before the main reverb, it is a lot cleaner than using the reverb's pre-delay itself. It sure can be used as a time aligning tool.

[digidan]

hmmm, I'll have to look into the echo plug. I must admit i never thought to try it for that purpose...

[chamelion]

I've been looking for a stripped down delay plug-in lately that is accurate to 10,000 or 1000th' of a second and is as low a hit on processing like the AU delay. Doesn't need any settings other than delay and mix.
Burnie

This is probably a bit simplistic, but one way to get the effect you describe would be to duplicate the original track, and then nudge the clone by whatever increment you want - as small as a single sample. Select the duplicate track, then in the Edit menu, select Set Nudge Amount. This can be any value you want.



Check the Edit Grid box in the Sequence window, then use the right or left arrow on the keyboard to nudge the clone in the direction you want. Play both tracks together, tweaking the level of the 'echo' track until it mimics the effect you would have had if you'd used a delay plug. Plus, you'd avoid the CPU hit issue altogether.

Geoff

[Shooshie]

Note that nudging a copy (or the original) over does not change it in real time. Tempo changes drastically affect the delay achieved when nudging. So, a nudge in a certain location may get exactly the delay you want, but a later tempo change might render that same nudge either dramatically too far, or simply not audible.

Shooshie