NAMM REPORT (2nd hand): DP SIX!!!!!!!

Jackle · Post by **Jackle** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:09 am

Splinter wrote:
Splinter wrote: CPU efficient, a given.

Do you mean efficiency is already in DP5?
Cause I don't think so.
Compare Logic and DP on the same computer running VI's.
That makes a total difference.
MOTU said that in DP6, they've made it CPU efficient for VI's and
I'm going to look foward to it.

Since that would be the main reason for me to upgrade or not.

Phil Jeffers · Post by **Phil Jeffers** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:16 am

DP has some of the best documentation.

I don't agree - the DP 5 manual skims over a lot of sections that I think it could pay far more attention to... and the Help drop down is somewhat of a joke.

This is just an opinion! Please don't crucify me for saying anything bad about Digital Performer!!!!

Phil Jeffers · Post by **Phil Jeffers** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:20 am

Jackle wrote:
Splinter wrote:
Splinter wrote: CPU efficient, a given.
Do you mean efficiency is already in DP5?
Cause I don't think so.
Compare Logic and DP on the same computer running VI's.
That makes a total difference.
MOTU said that in DP6, they've made it CPU efficient for VI's and
I'm going to look foward to it.

Since that would be the main reason for me to upgrade or not.

That could be very cool for mixing in general - esp 5.1

Shooshie · Post by **Shooshie** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:29 am

Phil Jeffers wrote:
DP has some of the best documentation.
I don't agree - the DP 5 manual skims over a lot of sections that I think it could pay far more attention to... and the Help drop down is somewhat of a joke.

This is just an opinion! Please don't crucify me for saying anything bad about Digital Performer!!!!

I've got the pitchforks, guys; you get the lanterns and ropes! AFTER HIM!

Shooshie

PS: which pitchforks does an angry music mob use, anyway? I've got "A's" and "Bb's". Will those do?

kassonica · Post by **kassonica** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:34 am

A DP dissent quick man the guns and pitchforks.

twistedtom · Post by **twistedtom** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:41 am

For a piano we will use the A; for a horn we will use the Bb.

What ever

Shooshie · Post by **Shooshie** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:47 am

The manual for DP has to be examined in the context of other manuals to be appreciated. I'm not saying it's the best of the lot, but it's certainly better than most of the manuals on my shelves. Its 1000+ pages were written by a number of people, apparently, as the style (and spelling accuracy) varies from chapter to chapter. The absolute worst kind of manuals are the parrot types. You know what I'm talking about. Those are the ones that just restate (parrot) what you already know:

Volume Knob - This is a knob that adjusts your volume.
Perdiddlesnicky Slider - This is a slider that adjusts your perdiddlesnicky.
PollywannaCracker - This is a polly that wanna cracker

The 2nd worst are the circular-reference manuals:

(page 16) Volume Knob - The volume knob is one of the most useful aspects of Digital Performer. You can learn more about it on page 672.

(page 672) - Volume Knob - This is a knob that adjusts your volume. [see page 16]

Digital Performer's manual has its share of both of these glorious manual styles, but thankfully they are few. It actually goes in depth on a lot of things. But the best manuals are those that take you through a hypothetical scenario and allow you picture what's happening:

Perdiddlesnicky Slider - In 1978, the little town of Perdiddlesnicky, Massachusetts had a baseball team that had made it to the regional playoffs. With the bases loaded at the bottom of the 9th, 2 outs, 2 strikes, Les Quidepan hit a grounder to right field. Three runners tagged home to tie the score, but Les got caught in a hot-box between 3rd and home. The 3rd baseman dropped the ball, and Les slid into home plate, winning the game and earning himself the title of the Perdiddlesnicky Slider. Les designed and implemented Digital Performer's Volume Knob (see page 672).

A little context can work wonders in a manual.

Shooshie

zed · Post by **zed** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:38 am

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Babz · Post by **Babz** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:53 am

Don't forget that Logic 8 also did some "catch up" by copying DP features (consolidated window, takes, etc.). All of these apps are always playing catch up, and copying each other. It's easy to be using one and looking over the fence at a particular feature and see the greener grasses of envy. But remember, you hop over the fence, you have to play with the entire yard.

Babz

Phil O · Post by **Phil O** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:06 am

Pitch fork...I get it!

Phil O · Post by **Phil O** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:11 am

But seriously. Shooshie, you're right. DP's manual has it's share of frustrating problems, but I think for the most part it's one of the best out there. I hope that MOTU continues to publish printed manuals in the future as I find them superior to PDFs. My DP manual gets LOTS of use. I think I still have the DP 2.6 (or was it 2.7) manual.

Phil

bjornln · Post by **bjornln** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:58 am

Did anyone drop by Toontracks booth ?

/B

twistedtom · Post by **twistedtom** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:38 am

I no like PDF's.

I don't get the pop ups that much, can you turn of help? Never gave it a try, will today.

bjornln I just got EZD and love it.

twistedtom · Post by **twistedtom** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:26 am

I have DP5x open and I do not see a way to shut of the pop up help tabs. They only open if you linger on a item (slider ect) but once one does it keeps happening even when you run over a nob fast; could drive one nuts. I find clicking on a empty spot on the interface stops it from doing it so easy.