NAMM REPORT (2nd hand): DP SIX!!!!!!!

kassonica · Post by **kassonica** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:17 pm

but will it sound more analog

RCory · Post by **RCory** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:24 pm

Shooshie wrote:Then that leads us to the most important question of all:

Is it Snappier?

No, this is made by AudioEase

Splinter · Post by **Splinter** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:25 pm

This is the first update in a long time where it seems DP is just trying to catch up instead of being the innovator. Yes, we're all excited about "new" features because they are much needed, but there's nothing groundbreaking here; WAV and AIFF support, Track comping, a decent reverb and compressor, better CPU efficiency, CD burning... while all very welcome, it's all been done before. I would hope DP would be setting the bar once again, but for now it seems the tables have turned. And there are still many features that need fixed or improved. I hope MOTU addressed these too.

Don't get me wrong, I'm charged about many of these improvements. I'm just not impressed with MOTU's uncharacteristic lack of ingenuity.

kassonica · Post by **kassonica** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:33 pm

Splinter wrote:This is the first update in a long time where it seems DP is just trying to catch up instead of being the innovator. Yes, we're all excited about "new" features because they are much needed, but there's nothing groundbreaking here; WAV and AIFF support, Track comping, a decent reverb and compressor, better CPU efficiency, CD burning... while all very welcome, it's all been done before. I would hope DP would be setting the bar once again, but for now it seems the tables have turned. And there are still many features that need fixed or improved. I hope MOTU addressed these too.

Don't get me wrong, I'm charged about many of these improvements. I'm just not impressed with MOTU's uncharacteristic lack of ingenuity.

There just maybe a trick or two up there sleeve yet.

YouTube · Post by **James Steele** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:34 pm

Splinter wrote:This is the first update in a long time where it seems DP is just trying to catch up instead of being the innovator. Yes, we're all excited about "new" features because they are much needed, but there's nothing groundbreaking here; WAV and AIFF support, Track comping, a decent reverb and compressor, better CPU efficiency, CD burning... while all very welcome, it's all been done before. I would hope DP would be setting the bar once again, but for now it seems the tables have turned. And there are still many features that need fixed or improved. I hope MOTU addressed these too.

What is your point? You know, I don't mean to pick on you, but it's posts like yours that frankly bum me out and make me curse the fact that I ever created this place. The "glass half empty" outlook I see here pretty much makes we want to vomit sometimes... if I may speak candidly. So what if DP isn't "out ahead" enough for you. For me, I'm glad that it shows they are at least "keeping up." In fact, I feel that there are so many strengths to the app that even if MOTU only addresses the "shortcomings" and brings it up to par with other apps (that is if I agree that it is somehow inferior), that's enough to push it into defacto superiority for me.

Oh... and where are the other apps built in pitch correction capability to name one.

DP 6 is going to be a kick ass version and perhaps it isn't going to be the final, definitive upgrade of all time, but it gives me many of the things I'm after making it unnecessary to even contemplate moving to another DAW for the foreseeable future.

It's funny how this board was chock full of skepticism on the heels of Logic 8 price cutting and the concern was MOTU's very survival was at stake. Now we pretty much see that their survival is indeed very much assured and the gripe is that they didn't raise the bar high enough with a giant leap beyond the others.

As I said... pardon me while I regurgitate.

YouTube · Post by **James Steele** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:39 pm

Splinter wrote:This is the first update in a long time where it seems DP is just trying to catch up instead of being the innovator. Yes, we're all excited about "new" features because they are much needed, but there's nothing groundbreaking here; WAV and AIFF support, Track comping, a decent reverb and compressor, better CPU efficiency, CD burning... while all very welcome, it's all been done before. I would hope DP would be setting the bar once again, but for now it seems the tables have turned. And there are still many features that need fixed or improved. I hope MOTU addressed these too.

Don't get me wrong, I'm charged about many of these improvements. I'm just not impressed with MOTU's uncharacteristic lack of ingenuity.

Oh yeah... and you left out VI pre-rendering... something nobody else does... to allow many more VIs than before. Also no need to print VIs to audio to use Bounce to Disk. That is huge in terms of saving time for making test mixes during a project, etc. I sat through the demo at NAMM twice, and there were a host of other improvements and features that I think will really shore up DP's position as one of the best DAWs anywhere. Frankly, I see another TEC award in the future. DP has won many of them... not bad for being so "behind" everyone else I guess.

kassonica · Post by **kassonica** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:43 pm

Thank you James for writing that much better than I could.

I concur that DP have been so far ahead of the rest that they have stopped for a bit and just added some great new features to keep them inline with the other DAWS but I bet that there features such as exploading takes will work better than logic or at least be more user friendly.

I'm really just very grateful that i use such a great product and even though sometimes it might not do what i want, but at this point THERE IS NOTHING ELSE that comes close.

And i really like the company MOTU.

timriley · Post by **timriley** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:45 pm

Im with you on this one james! Perhaps some of the other DAW's have been getting a bit ahead of themselves..... The classic old fable about the hare and the tortoise comes to mind!!

blue · Post by **blue** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:50 pm

VI pre-rendering is absolutely, friggin' huge! I am very excited about that one. Theoretically, we should be able to run as many VIs as we need at really low buffers. On the same machines!

Also, innovation isn't just about new features. It's also about new and old features integrate into the UI. With this upgrade, I think DP's already superior workflow got a much needed facelift that will make it the best work environment around. To me that is paramount.

Phil Jeffers · Post by **Phil Jeffers** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:23 pm

RCory wrote:
Shooshie wrote:Then that leads us to the most important question of all:

Is it Snappier?
No, this is made by AudioEase

Yeah - it comes in LT and XL versions... Snappier and Snappiest!

Is this the longest thread ever on Unicornation???

blue · Post by **blue** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:27 pm

Phil Jeffers wrote:Is this the longest thread ever on Unicornation???

Nope. That would be the Beatles VI thread, of all things.

Phil Jeffers · Post by **Phil Jeffers** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:28 pm

I just read James's post under the snappies...

Yes - DP - the oldest and the best! It••™s here to stay••¦ Mac only means stability +

I think it may get unstable on some systems because it is such a deep and creative app that pretty much accounts for everything.

Of course, always room for improvement, otherwise it would be DP ver. FINAL EVER!

Phil Jeffers · Post by **Phil Jeffers** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:29 pm

blue wrote:
Phil Jeffers wrote:Is this the longest thread ever on Unicornation???
Nope. That would be the Beatles VI thread, of all things.

How many pages was that?

blue · Post by **blue** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:35 pm

Phil Jeffers wrote:
blue wrote:
Phil Jeffers wrote:Is this the longest thread ever on Unicornation???
Nope. That would be the Beatles VI thread, of all things.
How many pages was that?

84!

aizo · Post by **aizo** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:58 pm

i have worked on a bunch of daws mac and pc. and everytime when im done. i run home and hug my laptop and just work in dp doing anything. becuase its superior in every respect. even if they didnt "catch up" with these "new" industry standards i would be perfectly content working in what
i have. half the amazing features in dp i have never used. it has great MIDI capabilities and it records audio.....WELL. it doesnt look like craylola crayons designed it. it looks professional and feels professional...without giving you that oh i should of went to tech college to use it. if digital peformer and i were in prison i would sooooooo be its bitch.