PT le vs. DP

[rocketsgalore]

Just curious. I'm very familiar with PT but I am looking to get into DP as I am very frustrated with the limitations in le. I guess one of the most important things I like about PT is the tab to transient function. Does DP have anything like it? Feel free to share any PT convert stories.

[dubaifox]

[QUOTE]as I am very frustrated with the limitations in le.QUOTE]

What version of LE are you using. If you have not stepped up to 6.7(6.9) you are missing out on some MAJOR improvements in MIDI.

In general, what do you think you will be gaining from DP that you can't get from PT LE?

[rocketsgalore]

Basic frustations with DIGI are as follows: track count limitations, no ADC for UAD-1, and no HIGH quality converter boxes for le or even the ability to go into adat inputs on 002r @ 88.2k. I have version 6.7. I have working on DIGI le products for years but often feel like it's a bad relationship with a girlfriend that you know you should get out of but since you're comfortable you don't leave until you have a good reason. I think the UAD-1 is my reason. I love the sounds on it and plan on using it a lot, but I'm getting over 3000 samples of latency when I add an EX-1, not a very big plug in. Also I feel that I have outgrown an mbox or 002r and want to upgrade to better conversion. No S/MUX on the 002 stuff is not acceptable for me. I would like to get into higher resolution like 88.2. I have also considered Nuendo but at this point I feel that I will pass on Nuendo, Basically the only thing I need to know about DP is if it has a "Tab To Transient" function in it like PT does. I have a dual 2 gig G5 and a powerbook so I will probably be getting a fireface, rosetta 800 or the new Aurora. I have not made up my mind yet. Thanks for any input.

[jeronimo]

I‘m very new to DP, most of the time I use some friends DAW that runs DP 4.52 and I would love to hear some comments on the "switch" also.
I couldn‘t edit on DP anywhere near I can w/ PT (speedwise). I couldn‘t find a tab to transient function either.

[tommymandel]

If I understand your "tab to next transient" question, then the way you'd go about it in DP 4.52 would be in the Waveform Editor window. You can get there by double clicking on a wave in the Soundbites window. (Everything in DP can be arrived at in more than one way, which can be confusing, but ultimately makes the program more transparent and gives you more control. eventually.) DP has a new Beat Detection engine, but I'm not sure that it's identical to the one in ProTools. You have to tell DP to find the beats in a sound file, or in all sound files in the Project, or in all sound files in all Projects. Then there are 2 sliders to adjust this sensitivity. Once the beats are detected (determined) for a soundbite (individual wave), you can move from beat to beat with the left and right arrow keys. I have read that in some situations, it takes a bit of tweaking to get the beats assigned and aligned the way you want them. But then the tab to next transient feature (using the L and R arrow keys) works.

[tommymandel]

Another forum member has posted his experiences which might relate to your question about Tab to Transient in DP vs PT.
It's at

http://www.unicornation.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=002774

[rocketsgalore]

Cool. Thanks for the responses. i guess I was hoping that someone would know PT and DP and have just a yes or no answer. But this info is good because it seems like there might be a better way to do things. Just FYI, the funcin I'm talking about has nothing to do with editing or preedited tracks although you can use it for editing. Basically with a certain feature selected you can use the tab key to scroll from transient to transient with unedited drums. This is very useful for editing or even when creating loops for playback and recording. The cool thing is that is selects on a zero crossing so you never have pop and clcks from bad wave form loops. Thanks for the input. Please bring more. Ryan

[XYZ]

Sounds like beat detection is for you. Beat detection also uses zero crossings at, what it thinks, is the very leading edge of a transient. For single track recorded close mic drums, it works really great. For entire songs, it can sometimes get confused as to which is a transient and which is not. No surprise, the simpler the track, the better it works.

It takes a few hours to really get to know beat detection, but once you do, you are amazed at how quickly it solves problems you didn't necessarily know you had. For example, once you get the beats detected, you can ask DP to slice it all up for you with one key stroke. You may find that tabbing to transients is no longer necessary for drums because beat detection does such a good job of finding the leading edge of a beat.