FaderPort vs Alphatrack - which is best for DP?

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FaderPort vs Alphatrack - which is best for DP?

Post by charlesmoman »

I read all the previous discusssions.
I may be able to buy the Mackie Control Universal but I am still looking at these single faders.

The AlphaTrack looks best to me.

Getting ready to work on 2 major projects - a symphony/soundtrack and a major musical.

Current feelings and experiences?

Thanks!

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Re: FaderPort vs Alphatrack - which is best for DP?

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charlesmoman wrote:I read all the previous discusssions.
I may be able to buy the Mackie Control Universal but I am still looking at these single faders.

The AlphaTrack looks best to me.

Getting ready to work on 2 major projects - a symphony/soundtrack and a major musical.

Current feelings and experiences?

Thanks!

Charles

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I'd go with the Alphatrack because of its readout.
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Post by James Steele »

Seconded on the Alpha Track... but budget an extra $9.95 for their replacement knob/fader cap kit. They're much more comfortable than the standard knobs.

http://www.motunation.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=156259
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James Steele wrote:Seconded on the Alpha Track... but budget an extra $9.95 for their replacement knob/fader cap kit. They're much more comfortable than the standard knobs.

http://www.motunation.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=156259
Oops... nevermind... I think I've read that they're standard now.
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I third the AlphaTrack, it is REALLY nice.
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Four, Alphatrack. I like it alot.
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... FWIW, I also run the alpha along side a contour shuttle... wicked setup - the slider/transport on the alpha - zoom with the contour, really fast editing combo...
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Post by Resonant Alien »

I have the Alphtrack. It is great - the display and rotary encoders are a leg up on the FaderPort. However, I do have one complaint - the feel of the transport buttons.....they are very stiff and "clicky" - you have to really put some pressure on them. I came from using a Mackie MCU, and the transport buttons on it are very tactile and easy to push - much like the buttons on tape deck. I haven't tried the FaderPort, so I am not sure about the feel of its buttons.
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Post by stephentayler »

Any thoughts on the size and weight of these units? I like the features of the Alphatrack, but thinking of my travelling kit, is the Faderport significantly smaller and lighter? And what about power supplies..... are they heavy, and are they universal voltage?

Any tips much appreciated

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Post by grimepoch »

The alphatrack is pretty small and is powered off of the USB, so no worries there. It's plastic whereas the other is metal, I'd imagine the alphatrack would be slightly lighter to say the least. But I am sure the difference in weight is probably not a huge amount.
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Post by stephentayler »

Actually I've answered most of my own questions: here are some specs for those interested:

Alphatrack
Power: From USB port; no external adapter required
Included Items: AlphaTrack control surface, 6' (1.8 m) USB cable, CD-ROM, Quick Start Guide
Size: 8.5" x 6" x 3" (22 cm x 15 cm x 7.5 cm)
Weight: 1 lb. 2 oz. (510 grams)

Faderport
Power: operational via USB bus, motorized fader powered via 9V 1.2A DC external power supply.
Included Items: FaderPort, USB cable, power supply, rubber feet
Size: Approx. 7" x 5.25" x 1.75" (18cm x 13cm x 4cm)
Weight: Approx. 1 lb.

So the Alphatrack is a little bigger, and a tad heavier, but does not need a PSU.

Thanks for all the tips..... shall probably pick up the Alphatrack when I go to LA shortly......

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Post by robstudio »

James,
Your friends at alpha ought to see this thread... your post's were a factor in my decision to get the alpha.... very happy customers here, especially with the knob upgrade, when I bought mine, it already had the new ones... a week or so after your posts about it... :)
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Post by grimepoch »

I wonder if that 1lb on the fader port includes the power supply?

The deal sealer for me was the display, I reference it A LOT!
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Post by supersonic »

I also use the Alphatrack and like it a lot, and also think the transport keys are loud and hard to action. I'd rather prefer the soft touch ones - especially if you're recording in the same room :)
That holds especially for Tranzport which uses the same mechanism for the keys.
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Post by Ebaange »

I tried the AlphaTrack when it first came out... I wanted to like it... actually I think I really *would* have liked it except mine had the notorious grounding defect and it would just completely freak out when I would touch the touch sensitive knobs. They acknowledge the problem but, pretty much, beyond getting my house rewired -which they won't pay for (hahaha.. just kidding, of course. Why should they?)- they offer no solution. So, I sent mine back and now I have no control surface. Yep, back to mousing. Come to think of it, I've done very little to no recording since. Anyone have a recommendation?
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Post by James Steele »

Sorry you had bad luck with yours. Mine has been working like a champ and I don't know that my wiring is all that great, however all my gear is running off a TrippLite power conditioner and voltage regulator, so maybe that's got something to do with it?
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