K3 out, how does it compare with M5v2?

Matcher · Post by **Matcher** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:53 pm

http://www.native-instruments.com/index ... r_id=54572

Shooshie · Post by **Shooshie** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:44 pm

It hasn't shipped yet.

Matcher · Post by **Matcher** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:53 am

Ok, so I take it there are no show- stopping new features that would make K3 somehow superior to M5v2?

I'm going to need a sampler and those above seem to be the best choices. Maybe I'll check USB PSP again too.

Sarcazm · Post by **Sarcazm** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:38 am

From what I can see, K3 brings it up to M52 standard in the main except that it doesn't support audio drag/drop. It still does however have better scripting (hopefully, something M5 will address in an update).

monkey man · Post by **monkey man** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:43 am

Less than a year since K2? They're blitzin' along.

Sounds like NI got a bit of a scare when Machy 2 burst onto the scene.

3over3 · Post by **3over3** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:58 pm

I know nothing of the world of Kontakt - what does scripting do? I mean practically? What do people actually do with the scripting engine? What do NI think people will do with it?

richardein · Post by **richardein** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:13 pm

3over3,

Scripting enables very subtle behaviors. Garritan's stradivari violin, for example, has extensive scripting which allows it to be a very expressive instrument in ways that are difficult for normal samples to achieve, eg in the details of a violin attack or decay. You can do a little of it, but the scripting in Kontakt goes deeper.

You can also write your own scripts in Kontakt. Haven't tried, but the scripted instruments I've used, like the stradivari, are excellent. Suggest going over to Garritan.com and taking a quick listen to the demos.

Sarcazm · Post by **Sarcazm** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:48 pm

3over3 wrote:I know nothing of the world of Kontakt - what does scripting do? I mean practically? What do people actually do with the scripting engine? What do NI think people will do with it?

(nut)K3 scripting = M5 rules(shell).

emulatorloo · Post by **emulatorloo** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:59 pm

Matcher wrote:I'm going to need a sampler and those above seem to be the best choices. Maybe I'll check USB PSP again too.

FWIW Plugsound Pro isn't really a sampler - more of a Rompler like say a Roland JV2080.

You use the sounds they ship, and you can buy more sounds from them. But you are stuck with the sounds they have. (not that it doesn't sound fantastic - it does)

You can't make new sounds in the way you can with MachFive or Kontakt.

At anyrate either MachFive or Kontakt are great choices. There is more third party support for Kontakt -- both ship with a big library, both are flexible, both work great in DP.

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mhschmieder · Post by **mhschmieder** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:16 pm

This isn't from the horse's mouth, but supposedly K3 supports wave editing. That was reported on another forum but I don't recall it being part of NI's official announcement. I'm not quite caught up from being gone for three weeks, so haven't yet gone deep into NI's own website. But the K3 release would have happened anyway so I don't think it's a reaction to Mach Five V2 -- they tend to update half of the Omplete line on alternating years, around the September to October timeframe.

ttauri · Post by **ttauri** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:46 pm

mhschmieder wrote:This isn't from the horse's mouth, but supposedly K3 supports wave editing.

From the NI website: "The new Sample Editor offers all the expected (destructive) editor functions: Cut / Copy / Crop / Delete / Paste / Duplicate / Fade In / Fade Out / Silence / Reverse / Normalize / DC Remove as well as a 20-step Undo/Redo."

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mhschmieder · Post by **mhschmieder** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:26 pm

Yeah, I'm a little more caught up now (I've now been back for two full days

), and read the Guitar Rig 3 and Kontakt 3 information in depth this morning at NI's website and am pretty well blown away by the improvements and enhancements. Well worth $199 even without Massive.

Unfortunately the update requires a minimum 1.66 GHz dual core processor, and I have a single core 700 MHz G4 iMac. I guess it was inevitable NI would start moving things over to a more CPU and memory hungry engine, but I think that is still a bit steep of an assumption for minimum requirements.

mhschmieder · Post by **mhschmieder** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:27 pm

NI did publish the instrument list for Kontakt 3 (sort of). The main new category is World, and the Symphonic category is enhanced (both the VSL part and some new stuff that they added to flesh out the orchestral percussion). It also appears the new Band category subsumes the recently canceled General MIDI product that they released a couple of years ago.

c0pasetik · Post by **c0pasetik** » Tue Oct 02, 2007 4:52 pm

No PSP is not a sampler in the way of the editing capabilities of say mach or K2, but you CAN import your own samples and looops so you are NOT limited to their libraries. In fact if you prefer the PSP interface, you can import Mach 5 prestes, which I'm surprised nobody has mentioned

emulatorloo wrote:
Matcher wrote:I'm going to need a sampler and those above seem to be the best choices. Maybe I'll check USB PSP again too.
FWIW Plugsound Pro isn't really a sampler - more of a Rompler like say a Roland JV2080.

You use the sounds they ship, and you can buy more sounds from them. But you are stuck with the sounds they have. (not that it doesn't sound fantastic - it does)

You can't make new sounds in the way you can with MachFive or Kontakt.

At anyrate either MachFive or Kontakt are great choices. There is more third party support for Kontakt -- both ship with a big library, both are flexible, both work great in DP.

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