Drums, Drums, and yet more Drums in DP

[wonder]

i am looking for a good....no...strike that....GREAT drum software program OR machine.
I am looking for something with preprogrammed loops and/or easy to program loops.
I am looking for ACOUSTIC...let me repeat...ACOUSTIC drum samples...not any of that synth stuff.

anyone point me in the right direction?

[mal201]

BFD by fxspansion. IMHO This is the best drum VI out there. It has6 Kits sampled, and feeds you over a dozen channels of miced signal including direct channels for each mic, and stereo pairs for overheads, room, and pzm mics. Nothing sounds closer to the real thing.

[TheHopiWay]

Drumcore.com

Easily the best.

[wonder]

ok, so i have checked out both....DRUMCORE has the edge right now cause of their videos and how they really showed me how easy it is to use with DP and PT.
The question is...which one has better beats and acoustic drum sounds?

[mal201]

I've looked at the videos for drum core and I've been using BFD for a while. It's seems that drumcore's library of beats is tough to beat, but it seems that you can only get a two track mix of the beats. BFD lets you get all the drum mics as well as overheads, room. and PZM. Which give you great flexibility in mixing. I haven't used drumcore so it may have it but I haven't found it. I think these two would work really well together, useing the MIDI loops from drumcore and the sounds from BFD.

Again just food for thought.

[FM]

Originally posted by TheHopiWay:
Drumcore.com

Easily the best.

nice nice nice!!
now lemme see... clothing/house items or Drumcore... hmmmm...
silly me, as if it's even a question.

thank you!

FM

FM is the proud inventor of the tchotchke.

[TheHopiWay]

One of the coolest things in DrumCore is it's ability to organise and preview any type of loop. I've imported lot's of files from other sample CDs and use DC to manage them.
The grooves are all pre mixed stereo files but every kit that was recorded also has it's individual components available as single hits so you can embelish by adding amore tracks and in addition there are MIDI files that were "copped" from the real performances that you can export to DP or use within DC to play any of the individual hits.
For example; You like Sly Dunbars groove but want a more rock sounding kit. Use the MIDI version of the groove and with the drum editor choose Matt Sorums kit. Totally different effect.

One disclaimer: I did some work on DC as a sub-contractor at my studio so I'm completely biased

<small>[ December 10, 2004, 03:42 PM: Message edited by: TheHopiWay ]</small>

[mongoose]

I'm partial to Drumkit From Hell Superior (an utterly different animal from the first two DFH installments, BTW), but that's in part because I (a) want to play and program in my own parts and (b) want to process the drums myself. DFHS is great for this--fantastic recordings of great drums with ridiculous velocity, hand, mic bleed, etc. variations. What it doesn't give you is any processing on te drums or any loops/MIDI programs.

Essentially, if you want to write a drum part and then have the plugin export it as if you had just done a 12-track recording of a great kit, this is the way to go. If, OTOH, you want or need any included sequences, grooves, etc. then BFD is fantastic. I have no experience with Drumcore, but it looks nice.

-m

[MarkH]

I'm surprised no one suggested Stylus RMX. Granted the loops is comes with are more electro but the SAGE Expanders include several different libraries of accoustic drums. Liquid Grooves, Backbeat, Burning Grooves, Retrofunk. All are accoustic sets and will include both loops and kits. RMX is $279 and each Expander is $99.

[dquave]

Does Drumcore have many jazz brush shuffle patterns? Is it possible to make your own?

[TheHopiWay]

Originally posted by jaredq:
Does Drumcore have many jazz brush shuffle patterns? Is it possible to make your own?

It has a few in the main release. More are done and will be available as add on drummer packs.
In addition any 3rd party loop can be imported into DrumCore and incorporated in the database so expansion is limitless.
DrumCore does not "make" any loops. All the content loops and fills are real time performances by great drummers {Alan White, Matt Sorum etc.) carefully cropped sample accurate to bpm. The loops were all recorded at 10 bpm intervals (50, 60, 70 etc.)and then stretched to the middle 5 (55, 65, 75 etc.)
After the loops were done MIDI files of the loops were also created to offer more flexibility.

[dquave]

That would be great if one of the drumpacks would include some jazz brush swirls and beats for the jazzers in the crowd.

[denne]

best acoustic drums today:

drums from hell superior

www.toontrack.com

[franknemola]

DFH Superior by Toontrack has the best acoustic drum kits.
not so easy to use but the sound is so real!!

[wonder]

I bought soundtrack to do drum loops but i dont like having to open another PROGRAM and only be stuck to ONE TEMPO and ONE KEY per song.
whats the best drum programming software?
BFD? Drumcore? ToonTracks? STYLUS?