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Organs Galore!

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I'm not a big fan of organ music, but I love to hear it now and then; certain Bach pieces just call for it. But where I really like to hear organ is in 60's rock and roll -- Bob Dylan, Beatles, and so forth. That percussive B-3, with the infinitely variable sounds it could make with the drawbars has never been surpassed or pushed aside by any other instrument. It's wonderful when an instrument carves out its own niche that secures its place on stage. The Fender Rhodes, the Hammond B3, the Stratocaster, the Mini-Moog... they are all great. But the B3 is probably the most copied, and yet the least successful among the copied instruments. Why? I think it was the drawbars and leslie that made the B3 unique, and they added a layer of skill to its performance. It's easy to duplicate a Fender Rhodes. The player didn't do much to the sound; he just played it. But the B3 had drawbars and leslie, and if your synth's "B3" copy doesn't have drawbars and leslie, then it ain't a B3.

Mach Five-2 has come up with a way of making any organ work like a B3. Depending on your samples and layers, yours may be more or less successful, but the principle works for any organ: DRAWBARS, LESLIE, and PERCUSSION! It's cool! You just right-click in the layers area, pull down to "Create Synth," then over to the sub-menu "Organ Emulator." Here's what happens next:

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Cool, eh? Next, you can right-click (or control click) on each drawbar and get a modulation/automation dialog. Click "Add MIDI Control," and a dialog pops up saying "waiting for incoming CC." Bump your MIDI controller (your slider, wheel, pedal, key, or whatever you want to use) and it captures the CC#. Click OK, and move to the next drawbar. My Kurzweil 2600 has 8 sliders conveniently located on top of the keyboard. I can push a button and get one of them to double as the 9th. The drawbars onscreen react in real time to the faders; no delay that I can see. Then it's fun to sit there and make organ sounds. A special on-screen pot labeled "harmonics" controls the harmonics of the percussive effect. I was sounding like Al Kooper in no time! Billy Preston might take a little longer. ;)

This set of drawbars goes one further than the real B3, and adds a pan for each drawbar. So, you can spread your harmonics out across the stereo field if you desire. I actually prefer them more bunched up, so they sound like they're coming from the same source. A classical organ may benefit more from the pans, since big classical organs typically fill up rooms full of pipes above the stage, and there can easily be a 40 foot spread from one end to the other.

Mach Five-2 is a pretty incredible sampler, with more features than you can imagine. They didn't have to do this. I think it's brilliant that they did, and it reveals also a rather playful sense about the creation of the software. Very nice, MOTU! A wonderful addition to an already wonderful product!

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Post by Frodo »

Very nice, indeed. I sort of let B4 go for a while-- haven't really needed a B3 sound in a while, but this is great.

As for the stereo imaging, I've played B3 with many church choirs who were fortunate enough to have two Leslies running at once. This alone added so much beef.

Really looking forward to working with this!

Thanks for the heads up, Shooshie. You've uncovered quite a little gem of a feature here!
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Very cool. I will look forward to playing with that sometime soon. :-)

On the downside, even though it would probably takes up a little more memory, I wish they would make the plug-in look cooler. Rather than bright solid colours, I much prefer an attempt to make it look like it is a vintage surface with some scratches or discolourations. If you are going to be staring at it for hours, you want it to be pleasant to the eyes.

I am not one to judge a book by its cover, but I always enjoy the book more if I actually like the cover, and especially if I like the font used within. Maybe its just me. :-(
Shooshie wrote:Billy Preston might take a little longer. :wink:


To mimic Billy Preston's Let it Be performances you need a rooftop reverb setting. I don't suppose Altiverb or any other convolution reverb software can mimic that special outdoor sound, can they?
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zed wrote:To mimic Billy Preston's Let it Be performances you need a rooftop reverb setting. I don't suppose Altiverb or any other convolution reverb software can mimic that special outdoor sound, can they?
You know? They probably do! Altiverb has just about every place I can imagine -- forests, rooftops, closets, tanks, hoses, stadiums, and it wouldn't surprise me if the rooftop of Apple headquarters (THAT Apple, not THIS one) might be one of their projects. :D

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Shooshie wrote:You know? They probably do! Altiverb has just about every place I can imagine -- forests, rooftops...
Hmmmmm. I'm gonna have to get this Altiverb. I want MachFive-2 also. So much damn software I still need to add to my collection. :-(

Glad there is so much great software out there, though! :-) What a great time that we live in for creating music.
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Add a small Overdrive and some Guitar Amps FXs and it sounds pretty cool.
Using Native Instruments guitar Rig on the output gives pretty amazing results too (Their leslie sounds very good.)
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hugy wrote:Add a small Overdrive and some Guitar Amps FXs and it sounds pretty cool.
Using Native Instruments guitar Rig on the output gives pretty amazing results too (Their leslie sounds very good.)
That's right! What you see here is just the beginning. You can layer any number of filters, oscillators, synths, spatial effects and whatnot on top of this. That's the beauty of using MachFive; the presets are only the beginning. You can alter so much, and add so many controls, it boggles the mind. This is like an audio playground!

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Frodo wrote:Very nice, indeed. I sort of let B4 go for a while-- haven't really needed a B3 sound in a while
I have B4 II. I LOVE it. It ROCKS. I use it constantly. The B3 thing in M5v2 sounds fun. Pity I don't have it YET. 1-2 weeks for free upgrades is on the downside of week 3.

:evil:

Perhaps this week....
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Re: Organs Galore!

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Shooshie wrote:Mach Five-2 has come up with a way of making any organ work like a B3. Depending on your samples and layers, yours may be more or less successful, but the principle works for any organ: DRAWBARS, LESLIE, and PERCUSSION! It's cool! You just right-click in the layers area, pull down to "Create Synth," then over to the sub-menu "Organ Emulator."
You know what that NEEDS? There are 9 drawbars in the shot you took. Guess what has 9 sliders?

http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/K ... -main.html

Bonus - it has a "drawbar mode" that allows you to invert the fader values. Cool, huh.
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Post by 3over3 »

Shooshie wrote:"... an audio playground!"
... if I worked at MOTU, I'd be paying you for the rights to use that as MachFive 2's advertising slogan.

Just nipping on to the swings. Wheeee!
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