Anyone having luck with importing libraries?

[Jaysplace101]

I tried my first import/conversion with no luck on a halion library. It's not doing what the manual says it should do. I double-click on a preset and then try and open a halion file.... It just says it has errors and can't find the samples and asks me to discard. I read over on another forum (GS) that guys are having no luck at all with library conversions.

j

[bjornln]

I tried my first import/conversion with no luck on a halion library. It's not doing what the manual says it should do. I double-click on a preset and then try and open a halion file.... It just says it has errors and can't find the samples and asks me to discard. I read over on another forum (GS) that guys are having no luck at all with library conversions.

j

Should it convert it ?
I thought it would just open it....
(still waiting for my Mach5)

/B

[tim57var]

I don't know about Halion, but it reads Kontakt files
Try seeing if it will just open...
good luck

[magicd]

Some sample libraries use "absolute" file name paths between the instrument preset and it's child samples. That's the case with EXS samples for example. There are a number of things that can break this path, and that will cause MachFive 2 to not find the child samples when the instrument preset is opened. Copying the sample library, moving presets or sample, or renaming the hard drive will all cause absolute sample paths to be lost.

I did some checking and with EXS libraries, the EXS sampler will go out and look for child samples if the absolute path is broken. If the samples are on the same hard drive as the instrument preset, EXS will find those samples and update the instrument file (automatically). If the samples are on a different volume, EXS will not find the child samples. If EXS does find the child samples and updates the instrument preset, then when MachFive 2 opens that EXS instrument, it reads the new path and finds the child samples. MachFive does not write to EXS format and does not search automatically for samples when the absolute name path is broken.

I suspect this may be what's happening with your Halion library. If MachFive 2 opens an instrument preset but can't find the child samples, you do get a window that lets you re-establlish the link to the samples. Assuming the samples do exist on a local drive, once you've found those samples with MachFive, you can save the preset as a new (MachFive)preset. The new preset will remember the links to the child samples.

Magic Dave

[dave898]

I just tried importing some .nki files (Kontakt) and .gig files (Gigasampler) and Mach Five can't locate the child samples. I direct it to the parent folders where the .nki and .gig folders are stored, but it doesn't ever find any samples.

[hugy]

Halion is not supported as far as I know.

Regarding Gig you just need mount the gig first (like dmg) inside the M5 browser, then select a preset.
In theory there should'nt be mising sample in Gig, otherwise let us know what gig you are using.

Regarding EXS, it will work fine if you already opened the file in the EXS.
In that case EXS fix the path inside the preset. Otherwise you ll have to manually found the sample.

Regarding nki, it should work fine, if path are relative otherwise that's like the EXS.

HTH

[dave898]

Regarding Gig you just need mount the gig first (like dmg) inside the M5 browser, then select a preset.
In theory there should'nt be mising sample in Gig, otherwise let us know what gig you are using.

Regarding EXS, it will work fine if you already opened the file in the EXS.
In that case EXS fix the path inside the preset. Otherwise you ll have to manually found the sample.

Regarding nki, it should work fine, if path are relative otherwise that's like the EXS.

HTH

Yeah, that worked for .gig files (mount it in M5). However, that doesn't work for .nki files, which one would think would be the same case as .gig.

All of these .nki files I'm trying to load are pretty mainstream, and have all been used sucessfully in Kontakt 2 (EWQLSO, Ra, Stormdrum, etc).

Has anyone out there been able to load .nki files?

[bjornln]

Regarding Gig you just need mount the gig first (like dmg) inside the M5 browser, then select a preset.
In theory there should'nt be mising sample in Gig, otherwise let us know what gig you are using.

Regarding EXS, it will work fine if you already opened the file in the EXS.
In that case EXS fix the path inside the preset. Otherwise you ll have to manually found the sample.

Regarding nki, it should work fine, if path are relative otherwise that's like the EXS.

HTH

Yeah, that worked for .gig files (mount it in M5). However, that doesn't work for .nki files, which one would think would be the same case as .gig.

All of these .nki files I'm trying to load are pretty mainstream, and have all been used sucessfully in Kontakt 2 (EWQLSO, Ra, Stormdrum, etc).

Has anyone out there been able to load .nki files?

As far as I know the library stuff (think anything you bought and came with Kompakt..) is encrypted and a no-go....

/B

[1nput0utput]

Both versions of MachFive can not open copy-protected Kontakt presets. Many presets included with sampler plug-ins based on the Kontakt Player are copy-protected.

[Notaboo]

MachFive2 did read all my old Roland CDROMs almost perfectly... I was waiting this for years !

[markg]

MachFive2 did read all my old Roland CDROMs almost perfectly... I was waiting this for years !

Did you compare the patches to how they sound on an S-series sampler? When importing Roland S-series samples with MachFive v1, the attacks, decays, and tuning were off so the resulting patches didn't sound or play the same as the originals.

[billf]

Both versions of MachFive can not open copy-protected Kontakt presets. Many presets included with sampler plug-ins based on the Kontakt Player are copy-protected.

Copy protection is fine if they are using authorizations specifically for the sample library itself, but to tie it down to a specific player makes about as much sense as making it specific to single DAW.

[SMP2005]

Regarding Gig you just need mount the gig first (like dmg) inside the M5 browser, then select a preset.
In theory there should'nt be mising sample in Gig, otherwise let us know what gig you are using.

Regarding EXS, it will work fine if you already opened the file in the EXS.
In that case EXS fix the path inside the preset. Otherwise you ll have to manually found the sample.

Regarding nki, it should work fine, if path are relative otherwise that's like the EXS.

HTH

Yeah, that worked for .gig files (mount it in M5). However, that doesn't work for .nki files, which one would think would be the same case as .gig.

All of these .nki files I'm trying to load are pretty mainstream, and have all been used sucessfully in Kontakt 2 (EWQLSO, Ra, Stormdrum, etc).

Has anyone out there been able to load .nki files?

Hey

I am getting constant "can't find samples" window when trying to load Kontakt2 libraries. Also, got distortion when trying to load Jophn Cage giga files. Also, had Mach 5 2 AND DP suddenly crash when trying to load an Artist Drums (.nki) file.

FUN!!

[Shooshie]

MachFive2 did read all my old Roland CDROMs almost perfectly... I was waiting this for years !

Did you compare the patches to how they sound on an S-series sampler? When importing Roland S-series samples with MachFive v1, the attacks, decays, and tuning were off so the resulting patches didn't sound or play the same as the originals.

Perhaps this requires tweaking within MachFive2, or perhaps it simply requires knowing and understanding how MachFive2 works, ie, read the manual. I don't know that it does or does not; I'm just saying that I've seen a lot of "can'ts" and "won'ts" in a very short time here. Typically something like this has a learning curve that's pretty steep for the first couple of weeks, if not months. Are we really sure that things aren't working, and that they cannot be made to work? Do we really understand what we're working with yet? If the answer to that question is yes, that the people saying that M5.2 can't do it are right because they know exactly what they're talking about and they know fully what M5.2 can or cannot do, then we're looking at the real limits of M5.2, and it's time to go to MOTU and ask "why can't MachFive2 preserve the operation of these samples, not just import their physical presence?"

But my question, then, is whether any of us really KNOWS MachFive2 well enough to say that with confidence at this point. It's only been in our hands for a week in my case, 2 weeks at the most in others. I certainly can't make statements like that, neither pro nor con, because I just don't know yet.

Shooshie

[Shooshie]

I am getting constant "can't find samples" window when trying to load Kontakt2 libraries. Also, got distortion when trying to load Jophn Cage giga files. Also, had Mach 5 2 AND DP suddenly crash when trying to load an Artist Drums (.nki) file.

FUN!!

I suggest doing your basic work -- creating presets, etc. -- in the standalone version of MachFive2. This protects your DP or other host files from crashes, and it eliminates variables from MachFive2. MachFive2 has never crashed on me, though I forced it to quit once when waiting on the beachball after clicking off streaming on the large German Piano samples. Some might say "well that was a quit or a crash, since you had the beachball," but I don't know for sure if it would have finished if I hadn't grown impatient (after 10 seconds) and force quit the app. Anyway, MachFive2 is relatively stable, and working in the standalone app is, in my opinion, a better environment for creating presets and performances, testing FX, etc.

Once you've got the basic presets and performances, then you can go into the host and use it as a plugin, just recalling your saved presets and doing a "save as" again for your specific file's presets once you've tweaked them.

Just a suggestion... certainly not a rule

Shooshie