Does your 828mkII lose its settings on power-off?

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Does your 828mkII lose its settings on power-off?

Post by jsr »

Every time I switch on my 828mkII I get what seem to be default factory settings. It's been like this since I bought it, so at first I thought it was normal (but annoying!). I can save a preset and load everything manually from that preset, which is really strange because if the non-volatile memory were defective, I'd expect to not be able to save anything at all.

Has anyone else experienced this problem?
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Post by jsr »

-*bump*-

Nobody? Could I ask a favour then .... if you own an 828MkII firewire version, with hardware/firmware 1.01 (with the green display), could you try the following for me please?

1. Put the faders in any setting other than "all zero"
2. Power the unit off
3. Turn the unit back on

Are the faders still in the position they were in before you powered the unit off? Or are they all reset to zero?

Thanks in advance :)
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Post by Nessuno »

my 896hd sometimes.

:(
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Post by zruzzo »

I have 828, 828mkII, 896hd and never happen with win or mac, allway good.
You have latest drivers?
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Post by jsr »

Thanks folks .... it happens even if the unit is not connected via firewire, so the drivers don't matter ....
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Post by daduk »

I've got the same •••• now. But it's really strange cause I own this beast for about 1,5 years now and it never behaved like this. What a bull-•••• man!

I will try to solve it and let you know.

Cheers,
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Post by jsr »

My unit's gone back in the meantime. At this point I'd really prefer to just get my money back -- I sick of getting the run-around between store, distributor and MOTU. It's been gone two weeks now and no contact from anyone, I'm going to wait maximum another two weeks and then it's into legal mode. That's over US$1000 I've got tied up in this thing at the moment!

I can't understand how the unit can selectively decide to be able to memorise a preset, but not remember its last used settings. My case is different in that it didn't develop over time, it was always like that, it's just that I'd never used an 828MkII before so I wasn't sure whether it was supposed to be like that or not.

It may seem like a trivial issue but if you work with headphones, when that sucker comes on at 0dB headphone level you'll soon change your mind! This fault makes the unit effectively useless as a mixer .... what mixer do you know that doesn't remember it's fader settings between power cycles?
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Post by Hard2Hear »

Its a dead internal battery. Just like a cmos battery on a computer, or a watch battery. Replace that and it should work fine. They definately remember setings, even when going from one computer to another.
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Post by jsr »

Thanks, but that would void my warranty .... this is a brand new unit.

Also, I'm not sure any modern equipment uses battery-backed CMOS memory anymore ..... EEPROMs are better and need no backup power; do you know for a fact that there's a battery in the 828MkII? i.e. have you had one open?

It's still strange why it's possible to save and recall a preset, but not the settings of the sliders.
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Post by Hard2Hear »

Yeah, I was giving you information I had been told, but I opened up one of my testing units and saw the eeprom. No battery, dont know where the person who told me got that from.

Looks like you need to return that unit for a good one!
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Post by jsr »

Just an update .... I returned the unit via the store/distributor, got it back about a week ago and have had time now to check every function in detail, and yes it does now retain it's settings after powering off and back on again.

It seems to be the same case but different electronics ... at least, the driver detects it as a different unit even though the case has the same serial number.
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