just got my ADAM A7's

larryf · Post by **larryf** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 9:20 am

initial impression: holy cow !

My mixes used to sound great in the studio, and then terrible everyplace else... now they sound terrible in the studio too !!!!

kgdrum · Post by **kgdrum** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 9:29 am

congratulations on the new monitors! realize you need to break the speakers in,I recommend playing for about 150-200 hours(though they will start to sound better after about 1 day:)KG

monkey man · Post by **monkey man** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 7:26 am

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That's serious monitoring, larryf!

I'd second KG's comment, based on what I've heard.

Phil O · Post by **Phil O** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 8:06 am

kgdrum wrote:congratulations on the new monitors! realize you need to break the speakers in,I recommend playing for about 150-200 hours(though they will start to sound better after about 1 day:)KG

I've never understood the speaker break-in thing. I got my A7s a while ago and one of them developed an intermittent noise. It only happened once every 20 hours or so. Anyway (to make a long story short), when I arranged to return the defective speaker, I had to wait several weeks for a new one to come in and the dealer told me to hang on to the bad one and use it till the new one arrived. When the new one came in, I pulled it out of the box, put it up next to the (good) one I had been using for several weeks and wondered if it would take a while to "even out." Well right out of the box it worked great with the now several week old unit. I couldn't hear any difference at all. I think the break-in thing is fantasy.

Phil

kgdrum · Post by **kgdrum** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 11:08 am

hey Phil-speaker drivers and tweeters need time to break in(tweeters mellow and drivers loosen up ,giving better mids and bottom)crossovers and circuitry needs time as well.
I work for and with Focal Pro and I can tell you my Twin 6 monitors sounded Good out of the Box but after about 24 hours they started to sound Amazing and after about 150 hours they totally Blossomed.The Solo 6 as well.
I also work in Extreme High End Hifi we have speakers from various companies Focal ,Lipinsky,Magico,Escalante,Peak Consult,Burmester Thiel etc... (price range $3000 to $90,000 per pair)all of the speakers need breakin time. All of the Speakers Sound better with proper breakin.
We have 1 pair playing 24/7 since we got them 2-3 weeks ago and they really are starting to sound AMAZING!!!(Magico $23,000 a pair and actually worth it!) out of the box they were good .....now the edginess on top is gone ,the bottoms is incredibly quick and tight and the imaging has gotten to the point of Jaw Dropping Amazement!!!
We never play Speakers for clients before they are actually ready and contrary to what you think , we are not delusional. LOL
Realize Amps,Pre's Convertors,and even CD players take breakin time as well.
Everyone at our Store are Seasoned Pro's,most are Musicians,some are Engineers as well,we disagree on alot of things but we all agree that most equipment ,speakers etc...needs breakin time
KG

BradLyons · Post by **BradLyons** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:05 pm

I'm a huge fan of ADAM, I highly recommend their monitors! Personally, I use the S1A's with their 10" Sub, I'm going to be adding a second 10" sub in (hopefully) about 3-months. I'm getting ready to get a pair of A7's for my church's studio here pretty soon....my point is, I'm crazy about the $5,000 monitor setup...but I'm IMPRESSED with their $1,000 monitors as you get much of their higher-priced monitors for a lot less money.

larryf · Post by **larryf** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 11:05 pm

Hi Brad, well I got these ADAMs from your colleague, Paul Allen. I generally prefer to do business with Sweetwater, unless it's something stupid like cables or other trivia. Not always for the lowest price, more for accountability when it's needed on occasion.

The ADAMs really blow my mind. In one day I was able to pick up a substantial consistent problem in my mixes - overuse of L-R delay to get space in the mix. I'd been using 9-10 MS but most of my mixes sounded too space or ethereal or something. I would try taking the delay down to 3-4 ms or up to 13-14 ms on my Events, but couldn't really hear the difference. With the ADAMs it was crystal in-your-face clear, too much delay. I ended up remixing a few songs with 1.0 to 2.5 ms delays and got my mixes open ans spacious without overkill - just like I wanted them. Only possible because of the massive increase in clarity in the mid-rage frequencies. These monitors are just paradigm shifting for my particular work.

HCMarkus · Post by **HCMarkus** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 11:38 pm

larryf wrote:My mixes used to sound great in the studio, and then terrible everyplace else... now they sound terrible in the studio too !!!!

Quote of the day for me. LOL.

BradLyons · Post by **BradLyons** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:54 pm

Larry,

Congrats, Paul is a good guy------just don't know what he's good for. KIDDING!

I "preach" ADAM Audio, now you know why

SixStringGeek · Post by **SixStringGeek** » Sun Jul 08, 2007 11:54 pm

Phil O wrote: I think the break-in thing is fantasy.

Maybe so. Based on recent equipment failures of new stuff - I totally believe in "burn-in" time. All new gear gets turned on and left on for a week. Then power cycled daily. If it makes it two weeks I figure it'll probably live forever. Disturbing how much stuff has died.

Phil O · Post by **Phil O** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 5:12 am

SixStringGeek wrote:
Phil O wrote: I think the break-in thing is fantasy.
Maybe so. Based on recent equipment failures of new stuff - I totally believe in "burn-in" time. All new gear gets turned on and left on for a week. Then power cycled daily. If it makes it two weeks I figure it'll probably live forever. Disturbing how much stuff has died.

Burn-in is totally different from break-in.

I believe in burning in equipment as well. With my luck, burn-in during the warranty period is a necessity.

Phil

alobonzo · Post by **alobonzo** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 12:53 pm

Hi,
I'm still searching info about monitors to make a 5.1 setup.
Do you recommend the A7's or the Dynaudio's BM5A to make a 5.1 setup with a subwoofer?

BradLyons · Post by **BradLyons** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:44 pm

You can't make a wrong decision between the BM5A's or the A7's, both are fantastic monitors. But I will say that the folded-ribbon tweeter in the ADAM design is unlike any convention dome tweeter design on many levels. I have configured quite a handful of surround setups from basic to advanced, including several based around the ADAM A7's...even to universities and schools. I will say this--a 5.1 system based around the A7's is a cost-effective way to do a pro-level surround system. The level of detail you'll hear is just going to be hard to beat @ $500 per speaker. I've listened and used many.

larryf · Post by **larryf** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:52 am

Phil O wrote:

I think the break-in thing is fantasy.

I definitely used to believe the break-in thing was a fantasy, too. However, I've spent two weeks running music through the Adams pretty much all day, and unless I've just gone insane, they have gotten a LOT better sounding over that time. Specifically in the upper-mids - big difference from the day they arrived here.

BradLyons · Post by **BradLyons** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 9:22 am

Either that or your ears have finally opened up to them now

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