leaving DP & Going to Logic.!

[mgmediaworks]

can you make me change my mind..? DP user since the days of my MAC se-30.. left after DP 2.4.. to Cubase on a PC.. so easy to use.. Bought a Power Mac .. Got DP update only to see I did not love it as much as i thought i did..
no direct bouncing from reason and DP together.. .The Model 12 does not audition sounds as you look for sounds like Reason Redrum.and for some reason when I first hit the key on keyboard it double triggers on the model 12..and..No Quick wiper zoom like in Cubase.. ..and even thought the split window thing is cool.. It's annoying..Even though i do like you can switch from tracks/audio windows etc from the mid of the screen.then. i installed logic express and found myself making three songs in a day.. love the exsp24 sampler....audio track you just simpley insert a instrument and presto.. add EQ and Effects to your VST.. and presto..No instrument track and MIDI track like DP..and I did not have to install LAME to export MP3's. Reason is Great but looking for one app to do it all.. I most likely going to go Logic Pro since it has the extended sampler and ultrabeat..and REASON..why? have a song with two programs sharing samples for one song. and all those refills..it's just impossible to keep track of.. I loved Cubase and Logic looks a bit like Cubase..yeah no Wiper Zoom but I'll have to live with it.. Must say I'll miss the simple fades i can do in DP.. but for now I'll still keep all my MOTU gear.. just not DP.. am i wrong? am I over reacting?

[James Steele]

No... to each their own. But you ARE posting in the wrong forum. I'll move it for you.

[blue]

Why does it matter what we think? It seems to me like you've made your decision based on your own needs, and anything I or others have to say won't really make a difference. For instance, I don't agree with any of the things you mentioned as being weaknesses in DP.

[mgmediaworks]

my point was that maybe there are some main issues i had not encountered yet..? maybe someone here knows something i don't know.. Logic to DP switchers

[billf]

am I over reacting?

Yes. Why must it be a binary decision? DP and Logic can co-exist together and that both can be used on projects.

[sdfalk]

I never really understood the need to announce stuff like this.
I use DP5 (mostly) and occasionally dable with Logic express.
I haven't "switched" to one or the other.
They both have positives and negatives.
I also have Protools le (for when I get a basic session in that format)
At the end of the day, 80% of what I do is in DP though.
The interface just makes sense, and I get alot more done in a day
then I ever have in Logic.
As for built in instruments..I've purchased enough (that would put put
me in Logics level) that make me plenty happy.
After what I paid for DP + the extra instruments, I still ended up
paying a few bucks less for DP.
I also got exactly what I wanted vs what Apple gives you.
If one of your "reasons" for switching is having to install lame..
(which takes 2 seconds) then by all means.

[jgest]

I am glad your at a place where you can ditch all the time and $ invested in dp (kinda like a marriage) and find your soul mate in logic.......

For me, I have too much time, money, energy and inspiration invested in dp to get emotionally charged and jump ship. At this stage of the game, Dp is like the wife I have had "until death do us part" for the past number of years......Kinda like my grandparents being married 50 years.....I'll just make it work in DP because thats my DAW.

Now this does not neglect the fact that I may get some "extra side" action with lovely apps like live and reason. But at the end of the day I'll always come home to DP.....

Like somebody priorly mentiond why can't you dig up on both (all nice like).....

[mgmediaworks]

good thoughts .... Hey. .i never said I was leaving DP.. and I'm not..specially not for $999.00..I was just curious.. what other people thought about logic?.. DP is the best all around app.. you can all sleep now.. I'm not a jerk.. just another DP user..sidetracked for a second...please forgive me for a have sinned...

[jgest]

please forgive me for a have sinned...

I pardon you

[James Steele]

Hey if a sequencer floats your particular boat that's cool. DP is just so much more intuitive for me and as many pointed out, once you've spent a lot of time learning an app, it's tough to justify the time to start over in another. I still prefer DP myself.

[FMiguelez]

I still prefer DP myself.

No kidding! Comming from you I'd say that's got to be the understatement of the year

[blue]

Hey. .i never said I was leaving DP..

So your subject header was just a rhetorical exclamation? ••¦!

[kelldammit]

firstly, i'll echo what a lot of people here have said. if it works for you, that's all that counts. the "vibe" of a daw and the workflow really does impact your creativity. once you find the right one, it's a truly great thing. it does free you up to create.

a couple of gotcha's to be aware of in logic:

1. export to quicktime movie is broken. if you do sound for picture, you'll have to export audio separately and line it up in imovie or the like.

2. you'll need to open the sample editor to do sample-accurate edits. i think the arrange will only get you to arround 4 sample resolution.

3. be careful using MIDI on instrument tracks. moving the slider can screw up your velocities if memory serves...i generally end up using separate MIDI tracks anyway.

4. i've heard of problems with mp3 export, but apparently aac works okay. not sure what the deal is there, as i never mix or edit audio in logic (see #2).

i agree, the instruments are pretty groovy. i like them, and like you, i appreciate some of the cubase-ish way some stuff works. i mostly use logic for down and dirty structural roughs with the stock vi's, then move into dp for the fine editing, "big gun" vi's, and audio stuff.

enjoy!

kell

[yealf]

I guess this has been said already but I use DP and have several friends who have Logic. They have just as many gripes as I do about DP. I really can't face relearning another telephone directory sized manual.
The real differences between these programs are getting smaller with every upgrade.
One thing me and my logic using friends all agree on is that we just wish the programmers would focus on reliability, getting rock solid timing both stand alone and slaved. Instead they focus on more and more features and ignore the basics. DPs basics have serious issues and so too do Logics from what I've been told. I like DP but also use protools a lot. DP and logic don't come anywhere near Protools for reliability and stability. That's a really big issue for me and while that pervades I will do most of my work in protools and use DP for only the most MIDI intensive projects.

[chrispick]

The real differences between these programs are getting smaller with every upgrade.

A good point.

DP and logic don't come anywhere near Protools for reliability and stability. That's a really big issue for me and while that pervades I will do most of my work in protools and use DP for only the most MIDI intensive projects.

It's the difference between open and closed system architectures, I think. No way around it. There are trade-offs either way. With PT, you get gear built specifically to work together, but a pay a premium for it. With DP and Logic and similar, you get user-definable builds and less-expensive component pricing, but also the complications inherent to systems open to countless hardware and software variables.