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Kubi wrote:And ditto on the plugs, no need to focus on that from my point of view... I have plenty, and they work fine.
For me, the issue's not quantity; it's quality.
If DP had more plugs equal to the quality of their MWEQ, I'd save a chunk of money (and potential compatibility hiccups or aggravation -- who likes to wait for all these disparate apps to upgrade together and work nicely? It can take a year sometimes!) on third-party purchases.
Sure, better-quality third-party plugs are my resort now, but must they be? I'd rather back off the whores and get my wife put out better.
Kubi wrote:••• Buffer size visible in the control panel - I hate having to open the Configure Hardware Driver window, only to find out I already reset the buffer, and then having to wait for the VIs to reload...
Nice.
Yes buffer size and input monitoring modes switchable without going into sub menus
Mac Pro (Late 2013
2.7 GHz 12-Core Intel Xeon E5
64 GB 1866 MHz DDR3
Mojave
DP 10.13
MOTU 8pre, MTP AV, 828 mkII
Tons of VIS and plug ins. SSD hard drives etc
Kubi wrote: key command to move track selection up and down the list, in both the tracks overview and sequencer windows (visible tracks only in the case of the latter)
control+page up/down moves selected tracks up and down the list.
shift+opt+up/down moves the selection up and down
Was either of those what you're after?
#2 was indeed! Thanks!! I looked thru the commands window, but I must have read right over it.
Kubi wrote:And ditto on the plugs, no need to focus on that from my point of view... I have plenty, and they work fine.
For me, the issue's not quantity; it's quality.
Well, I somehow don't expect MOTU to be able to compete with i.e. my Sonalksis or Abbey Road or (in their quirky own way) Audio Damage plugs.
For instance, one of the reasons I went for the Sonalksis bundle is the quality of the EQ - a good bit superior (especially in the highs) to MWEQ (though I like the MWEQ.)
But since tastes vary considerably (i.e. I really don't much like Vintage Warmer, others find it outstanding...), I think MOTUs approach of offering a rather limited but workable set of bread-and-butter plugs and keeping the app at a reasonable price is better than loading DP up with plugs - I'd likely have to go and buy the ones I like better, anyway.
My nickel only. Of course, I don't mind having plugs as part of DP... the more the merrier!
How about proper automation for NI Guitar rig and Ozone 3 automation. And , there is an amazing command in Pro tools DP BAdly... BAdly... BAdly... BAdly... BAdly... BAdly... Needs..
If you click any plug in parameter withcontrol and apple held down, THAT parameters automation comes up in the editing window. It really really sucks to have to pull down a choce of automation parameters to tweek an eq...this is sorely needed
Mac Pro (Late 2013
2.7 GHz 12-Core Intel Xeon E5
64 GB 1866 MHz DDR3
Mojave
DP 10.13
MOTU 8pre, MTP AV, 828 mkII
Tons of VIS and plug ins. SSD hard drives etc
Frodo wrote:(...)and the ability to have no tracks selected in the MIDI Editor while selecting new tracks for editing. Currently, one must first select the new track, then scroll to the unwanted track to deselect it. Lots of needless scrolling going on.
Can't you simply option-click on the new track you wish to edit, thereby selecting it and deselecting all others in the process? Or am I misunderstanding what you want to do?
option-clicking is fine for certain things, but using Consolidated Windows, larger projects (100 tracks or so) become difficult to locate specific tracks for record-enabling. It's not that it takes *that much* time, but with that many tracks it creates a lot of needless repeated actions and some guess work.
To option-click on a track, one must first *find* the track. One thing that would help this would be if the Editors' track lists didn't jump around when deselecting tracks. It's very easy to loose one's place. With projects containing a couple dozen tracks it's less of an issue.
It's not entirely out of the question that a third monitor will be necessary as a workaround.
••• I would like to be able to automate the click easily. A simple example would be to mute the click at bar 122 for an ending ritard. Another example would be to increase or decrease the volume at certain points. Please make that easy to do.
wurliuchi wrote:••• I would like to be able to automate the click easily. A simple example would be to mute the click at bar 122 for an ending ritard. Another example would be to increase or decrease the volume at certain points. Please make that easy to do.
You can tacet the click fairly easily in the 'change meter' dialog. Can't do volume changes unfortunately - you'd need to put the click through an aux track and automate it, although I can't think how they could make that process much easier.
DP 9.52 Mac Pro 10.14.6 RME fireface800. Sibelius. Dorico 4
wurliuchi wrote:••• I would like to be able to automate the click easily. A simple example would be to mute the click at bar 122 for an ending ritard. Another example would be to increase or decrease the volume at certain points. Please make that easy to do.
You can tacet the click fairly easily in the 'change meter' dialog. Can't do volume changes unfortunately - you'd need to put the click through an aux track and automate it, although I can't think how they could make that process much easier.
Hey, thanks for that. I didn't notice the tacet option before. Sure enough, there it is. I also didn't think of sending the click through an Aux and automating the Aux level. That will work perfectly and isn't a hassle at all. This is great. I don't have to wait for version 6 to get what I want.
I usually mix with my digital mixer, but it's in for repair and I'm MITB for the first time. I'm not familiar with all DP's features, though I do read the manual. Thank you very much. This is extremely helpful to me.
I'd like to see a "Snap To" feature for adding markers on the fly. So when you click on "Add Marker" (or keyboard shortcut) on the fly, it snaps to the nearest specifiable beat or measure or time increment. If this already exists, please point me to it.
Phil
DP 11.34. 2020 M1 Mac Mini [9,1] (16 Gig RAM), Mac Pro 3GHz 8 core [6,1] (16 Gig RAM), OS 15.3/11.6.2, Lynx Aurora (n) 8tb, MOTU 8pre-es, MOTU M6, MOTU 828, Apogee Rosetta 800, UAD-2 Satellite, a truckload of outboard gear and plug-ins, and a partridge in a pear tree.
Phil O wrote:I'd like to see a "Snap To" feature for adding markers on the fly. So when you click on "Add Marker" (or keyboard shortcut) on the fly, it snaps to the nearest specifiable beat or measure or time increment. If this already exists, please point me to it.
Well you can quantize the markers, but that's another step.
While we're speaking of markers, have you noticed that they've put an extra 'Marker is Locked' checkbox in the dialog that comes up when you add a marker. They kept quiet about that one - I just wish you could choose to have locked as the default. At least now with this new option I don't have to option-click on the markers as soon as I create them.
DP 9.52 Mac Pro 10.14.6 RME fireface800. Sibelius. Dorico 4
4 Control-click contextual menus everywhere in the pgm
5 Update Consoles, fix bugs and make it more user friendly
6 Some kind of per-track marker with some provision for longer comments perhaps. I do long improvs on different tracks and would like to mark the good spots of each track separately as an example. I would use this constantly if available
7 (Related to 6) It would be nice if the comments column could be moved to the left in the tracks window in a finite colomn like the others and click on it for a full paragraph of comments and not trailing off the right side of the screen.
8 A preference for markers that when you create one the text is highlighted and ready to be typed into on the fly
9 markers should be consistent across all windows, e.g. option-clicking a marker should always perform the same operation no matter what window you're in
10 DP should use the Mac OS gui conventions throughout. Specifically shift clicking and command clicking in a DP list should act exactly the same way as it does in finder windows.
Regarding 1-3 above, I'd like MIDI-learn to also include parameters of plug-ins, including MIDI plug internal parameters like quantize strength for example. I'd like to see virtually every parameter in DP available to automate and attach MIDI controller in an easy manner like a control-click contextual menu i.e. control-click on any parameter (in any window including plug-in windows) > Attach MIDI controller > move the MIDI slider etc > DONE.