Mach V ver.2 *review*!!

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too late now, I'm on a MAcintel.

I will check out M5v2 when it comes out.
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3over3 wrote:
garymadi wrote:I put the release copy of MachFive V2.0 in my will just in case the skydiving thing becomes an issue and I don't see 2012...see "This is what's up with MachFive according to MOTU 4-23-07" thread
Sorry, I'm getting a bit confused - are you skydiving in the London 2012 Olympics? Is it a demonstration sport? Why do you use a sampler? Perhaps a parachute would be better? Or is software development also now an Olympic sport? Come on MOTU! Come on MOTU! Ooooh! etc.
Sorry for the confusion.
This explains alot. I've tried to sample the 'chute-jump but the mic'ing of the recalcitrant canopy, or lack of, and wind noise are problematic. My arms short and I don't have a boom to get the mic' close enough to the streaming 'chute.
The audio boom when I hit the ground comes out great with a hand held mic'. Ribbon mic's are not recommended.
I can never get the MachFive box open and use the disc to slow my fall either.
Maybe that's why I get invited to so many plane
crashes for pictures.
Thank you for the tech support!
An exibition plummet at the London Olympics are I.
Assuming of course that the Mayan Calender "End of the World As We know it" is the last event.
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Frodo wrote:
monkey man wrote:
Frodo wrote:That alone is a brow raiser, considering that's almost four times the version 1 sound bundle.
Shouldn't be; I predicted this many times, after all. :D
I pointed out that most reviewers weren't impressed by the original library offering, and that MOTU would surely address this weakness in kind.
I've always said that it'll blow K2 away; remember the chants?
No need to chant now; MOTU magic is on its way! Yay!
Just watch MOTU dance their way onto the floor with this one...
You predicted it, indeed, but confirmation always comes as music to ones ears. Call it elation. You could even call it vindication, in a sense. We don't always get what we hope for, but this is clearly a nice plus.
Yes, Frodo; confirmation is always sweet, especially when it concerns Machy!

FWIW, I'm 2 for 2 where Machy's features are concerned:
I also predicted MOTU'd include the translation engine within the plug itself barely a month ago.

As for Machy's birthdate, well that's where we all fell down years ago. :lol:

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MOTU support page loses Unicornation

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I check daily for news of Mach Five v.2, linking through MOTU's support page. Notice now it is a "Third Party User Forum".

Who said what to PO them?
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to motu:
>
> hi
>
> i asked about de release of a universal binary mach5 version before
> but i read on http://www.unicornation.com/:
>
> ...Elec. Musician has a review of a beta copy of M5 v.2 in it's
> June '07 edition...
>
> is a release of mach5v2 nearby?
>
> or is it false hope again?

reaction:

Thank you for your interest.

Mach Five version 2 with Mac Intel support is currently in
development. There is no specific release date. I can tell you that
development and testing of v2 is a priority and the update will be
available shortly. When Mach Five 2 is available we will post that
information to www.motu.com
Thank you for your patience.

If I can be of further service, please let me know.

Dave Roberts - MOTU


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jcroson wrote:I check daily for news of Mach Five v.2, linking through MOTU's support page. Notice now it is a "Third Party User Forum".

Who said what to PO them?
jc
I doubt anyone PO'd them. I'd guess that they wanted to make it clear that it's not an official MOTU board.
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i went by Univers Son today and got the same old
all we know is that it is coming soon answer.
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My June 2007 issue of EM finally arrived today, and I just finished reading the review of Mach Five V2. I am truly blown away. And I'm also too tired to get into specifics right now :-). Suffice it to say that many of the new features are unique and will set it apart from other samplers in a big way.

I am especially happy to hear of its ability to work directly with Kurzweil and Akai formats, as this encourages one to purchase some still-unique libraries in those formats that jsut haven't made the crossover yet to Kontakt format or standalone VI's.

But that is a "minor" feature compared to the ability to drag waveforms from Digital Performer directly into Mach Five V2. The mind boggles at the possibilities, and how this tight integration will change the whole game. It's like taking a page from Reason, Live, and other "new paradigm" DAW's, but doing it in a way that still allows traditionalists to work the 'analog" way when that's most productive and intuitive.
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mhschmieder wrote:My June 2007 issue of EM finally arrived today, and I just finished reading the review of Mach Five V2. I am truly blown away. And I'm also too tired to get into specifics right now :-). Suffice it to say that many of the new features are unique and will set it apart from other samplers in a big way.

I am especially happy to hear of its ability to work directly with Kurzweil and Akai formats, as this encourages one to purchase some still-unique libraries in those formats that jsut haven't made the crossover yet to Kontakt format or standalone VI's.

But that is a "minor" feature compared to the ability to drag waveforms from Digital Performer directly into Mach Five V2. The mind boggles at the possibilities, and how this tight integration will change the whole game. It's like taking a page from Reason, Live, and other "new paradigm" DAW's, but doing it in a way that still allows traditionalists to work the 'analog" way when that's most productive and intuitive.
I've got to pick up that edition of EM ASAP.

Hey MH:

This is from a KVR.com preview, and I was just wondering if this was mentioned:
KVR wrote:In Version 2, MachFive lets users add unlimited parts to one instance of MachFive, eliminating the need to open multiple instances when more than 16 parts are needed. The stand-alone version of MachFive can receive on an unlimited number of MIDI channels, while the plug-in version supports up to 128 separate MIDI channels per instance.
ONE instance?!!

Can you imagine what this means once everything goes 64-bit under Leopard? Whatever memory or polyphony is limited by the hardware will no longer be an issue. It's clear that this feature has its eye on the future.

Let's hope that the duration of the 'future' between now and the time M5V2 is released will be a short one.
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EM's not even in our newsagents yet down under, but, being a sucka I trunced off to the newsagent to have a read... no go.
SOS arrives 4-6 weeks late anyway.

The "leaks" so far sure do feel like vindication, Fwoggy.
Remember how folks criticised my enthusiasm for believing that Machy was gonna knock 'em dead?
Remember what I'd say? I'd tell 'em it was all about the "MOTU way".
I unashamedly have faith in MOTU's core philosophies, which are expressed through its software and hardware.

Now, this same philosophy applies to my expectations from DP's forthcoming updates.
I feel strongly that MOTU's been working hard on major, possibly groundbreaking but at the very least impressive new features for DP.
Since August last year, much energy would have been spent on bug-fixing, and few (if any) major features have been passed on.

I'm bracing for dropped jaws and ear-to-ear grins, just quietly. :wink:

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Post by mhschmieder »

I too have great faith in MOTU above and beyond most companies in this business. And even though I sold Symphonic after buying Vienna, it would not surprise me in the least if V2 of Symphonic blows us away.

Although I'd rather they focus on a dedicated library for Ancient Instruments and Eastern European instruments :-).
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monkey man wrote: Remember how folks criticised my enthusiasm for believing that Machy was gonna knock 'em dead?
Ah, Nicky. Not to worry. They weren't *really* criticizing you directly. It's more about the wavering energy of patience than it is about faith. Most here continue to have faith in MOTU, but the wait has been unusually long. There are those who needed M5v2 as much or more as they wanted it.

To pass the time and to meet work deadlines, some users simply felt the frustration of being caught in a gray area and were loath to invest in another Intel-compatible sampler having already invested in M5v1 and developed a substantial library for it.

Okay, so you found yourself holding up that blood-stained banner for M5 in the rain while the tribe made liquor from your share of the corn, and bravo to you for it. Remember: "the race is not given to the swift or to the strong, but to those who endure to the end".

As you continue to "endure", save a measure of elation for v2's release to see what new threads transpire. M5v2 will in its first incarnation be a 'point-zero' release, and there could be an understandable teething period as things get up and running.

Still, it's nice to see something official about it in print that holds so much promise.

So, keep that candle burning! :wink:
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Create synth command to layer as many oscillators as you want with samples
Now that could be something worth getting excited about.

The world is ready for a Synthpler or Samplesizer. There is no reason at this stage in SW development for sound creation and sound playback to be separated.

It is not like K2 ignores this; there are many features and possibilities for using waveforms, but maybe M5Vs has truly integrated the synth with the sampler, and that would be worth buying
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MegaDPuser wrote:
It is not like K2 ignores this; there are many features and possibilities for using waveforms, but maybe M5Vs has truly integrated the synth with the sampler, and that would be worth buying
Or get for free.

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Fwoggy wrote:Ah, Nicky. Not to worry. They weren't *really* criticizing you directly. It's more about the wavering energy of patience than it is about faith. Most here continue to have faith in MOTU, but the wait has been unusually long. There are those who needed M5v2 as much or more as they wanted it.
True words, Fwoggy, and I agree. Thank you for the words of encouragement, too.
Indeed, it did feel as though those dark energetic forces were directed at MOTU; I s'pose I felt a little like the "shot" messenger at times.
I didn't mean to sound like I was complaining; it's no bother.
Burning the flame for politically/popularly incorrect causes has been a life-long tradition for me, so I well know the flack that comes with the territory. :D
RAMBro wrote:Okay, so you found yourself holding up that blood-stained banner for M5 in the rain while the tribe made liquor from your share of the corn, and bravo to you for it. Remember: "the race is not given to the swift or to the strong, but to those who endure to the end".
As you continue to "endure", save a measure of elation for v2's release to see what new threads transpire. M5v2 will in its first incarnation be a 'point-zero' release, and there could be an understandable teething period as things get up and running.
So, keep that candle burning! :wink:
Let's see... I've got matches, earwax, string... all I need is for you to cart the buffet in and we're away! :D
I agree there'll be a measure, hopefully not much of one, that'll be needed to prop our Unicorn buddies up when they hit the (first, and subsequent) walls early on in the piece.
I anticipate much lyrical waxing and wailing as our Machy makes her splash into our parched dry docks.
I'll be there to fly the flag, to burn the candle, to hold the fort of our emotional integrity, to sing the anthem, to bang the drum, to... well, you get the idea. :lol:
In fact, given the context of all my postings on the subject of Machy and the wait for her, I must concede that I'm one of a handful of 'Cornies that'd be expected to make the most noise as she steams in.
You, my friend, would be another. I expect much in the way of decibels from the Footed One. :D
Bigfoot wrote:Still, it's nice to see something official about it in print that holds so much promise.
Ooh, yeah! :D

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