Anyone using Barbabatch

[Timeline]

I was just told about this and wondered if there was any sonic advantages when downconverting rather than using MOTU's internal soundbite editing.

How does it work? Standalone?

Anyone?

[GORILLA]

HERE. Cheaper and works great!

[marcmarc]

I've bought Barbabatch some months ago and it's still useless despite many emails to Audioease : It was a great converter in os9 days but it's buggy as hell in osX...
So, stay away from it !

[Timeline]

Thanks!

[iMAS]

Bump...just want to know who else is using barbabatch and how is it working now.

[Dwetmaster]

I'm looking into this because it has some low phone conversion. Anyone using it for anything?

[martian]

what kind of conversion you need?

I looked at barbabatch but seemed pricey

I'm using sound grinder which is much cheaper - and has some pretty useful functions I think -

And is a try before you buy scenario - which in this age of software is good.

I mean we've all bought stuff and found it doesn't really work as advertised...

There's also audiofinder which does conversions too

wow you dug this thread up pretty deep!

martin

[bayswater]

Have a look at this thread on sample rate conversion.

http://www.motunation.com/forum/viewtop ... hlight=src

Barbabatch shows up as one of the best in the tests that are referred to by the origintor. DP by contrast, has poor results in this area.

But it is pricey and there are some alternatives.

[Mr_Clifford]

Sample Manager by Audiofile uses the iZotope SRC algorhythm and is currently selling for $70 (US). My mastering engineer just swapped to it from Barbabatch because he reckons the SRC is better.

[chamelion]

I've been using Switch for my format conversions for over a year now, and it has proved to be 100% reliable. I highly recommend it - and by the way, did I mention that it's FREE? Check it out.

[Shooshie]

From the thread linked above, I have this reply to make to a great post by GrimEpoch. (I think I'll post it in that thread, too, for the record)

As an added bonus, I'll give you something to think about. Let's say your sample rate is 40kHz which tells you that nyquist says you can only represent signals to 20Khz. Now let's say you have two sine waves at 20Khz and you are sampling them. The first one, let's say it time aligns EXACTLY with the peaks of the 20kHz. Your resultant samples get two alternative values at max and min over and over.

Now, let's say that the sine wave was shifted exactly 90 degrees from that. The sampler would be recording values at the zero crossings. You would see nothing. Nyquist tells you can in fact sample at half the frequency, but what it doesn't say is that the nearer you approach the limit, the more inaccurate the amplitude can be recorded based on the phase of the signal and the phase of the samples. When working at the higher sample-rate, this problem is greatly reduced, however, when you go back down, if those samples are in the bits to throw out location, again it would disappear. If you tried to look at the samples before and after, you'd see maximum amplitude and minimum, which would still put you at zero. (given PERFECT timing and recording of the a sin at 80Khz just to coincide with the example of 40Khz above).

This has been a bone of contention for me since I first read about digital audio. Of course, we hear very little in the 20khz range, but at 40,000 samples per second, there are 39,998 inaccurate ways to catch a sine wave at 20K, and only 2 ways to catch it right. With a 1 in 19,999 chance of getting no distortion of that frequency, and something similar happening in all frequencies above, perhaps 10K, where there are only 4 chances of getting the exact amplitude and 39,996 chances of getting it slightly wrong, it's no wonder that we don't particularly like the high registers of digital audio.

But we hear progressively less audio above 8k. Nevertheless, our CD's must drive our dogs crazy.

Shooshie

[Dwetmaster]

what kind of conversion you need?

I looked at barbabatch but seemed pricey

I'm using sound grinder which is much cheaper - and has some pretty useful functions I think -

And is a try before you buy scenario - which in this age of software is good.

I mean we've all bought stuff and found it doesn't really work as advertised...

There's also audiofinder which does conversions too

wow you dug this thread up pretty deep!

martin

No I need Pure Voice's qcp conversion and it's not really common. As for the price, I need the best conversion solution available (given the limited capacity of a cell phone) and I need batch processing. I don't care about price because my company is going to pay for it.

[ozheri]

i love barbatch, its fast and about as difficult to use as Stuffit!!
i can open it quickly and change a wav 16 bit stereo to a aiff 24 bit mono in less than five seconds!
btw yes it is a standalone

[Buckage]

I've been using it for a couple of months in OS 10.4.8 and have had no performance issues with it. The only thing that bugs me is that you can't seem to export embedded tempo information. Does someone here know how to?

Everything I've converted sounds great to my ears.

[monkey man]

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I'm sure that if I met her, I'd love BarbyBitch too.

I'm off to give myself a well-deserved ass kicking.
OUCH!

There ya go, Jimbo, the job's done; no need for corporate polishment.