DP4 in pro mix situation is a joke

[Timeline]

I'm on 4.52, 10.3.8, with 3 hard drives and uad card...never came close to craping out the cpu.

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mac dual gig w/1.25 gig of ram, mackie dxb, dp 4.52, 3-2408 mk3, 24 i/o, peak 4, waves diamond, 2- uad 1, ew symphony & bosendorfer, ztar, korg triton, roland jv1080....

Anyone can make any Mac work dear boy.

It depends on the exact usage and hardware of a system in question and is not applicable to this discussion.

I see your computer is a 1.25 dual 20% faster than the user in question. You didn't qualify what HD's you were using and what they were, FW? No info on SR, track count or plugs in use.

You seem to just want to argue instead of get to the facts of the matter to help the user or are unqualified to respond in this forum.

I have no reason to reply to your inaccurate banter again.

[Twinner]

Okay, check this out. I have DP slaved to the RADAR, and the audio is way latent. I turn off ALL plugins, tracks are in sync again. I unslave DP, make RADAR slave to DP, and all is in sync again. So it appears something is wrong with ADC while you're in External Sync. BUT....there is another wrinkle...

At first, everything was starting to work this way. Then DP starting have serious trouble firing consistent MTC to the RADAR. The CPU meter wasn't even past 50%, but there were a lot of audio tracks. It was also spiking and keeping the peak indicator quite active. So now I have to figure out which tracks to get over to RADAR to lighten DP's load. Sigh. A G5 with a single user FibreDrive system would stop all of these issues, I know.

DP isn't entirely a joke for pro mixing, but without a bunch of UAD/Powercore cards/a G5/a fast-ass drive system, it sure can be a freaking slow, tweaky proposition. Especially if you have track counts higher than 50-60 in 24/48.

I'll make this work, but it seems that more often than not DP kicks my ass RIGHT AT THE FINAL STAGE of my project. Everything is great right to the very end and then ALL the problems start. Kinda frustrating.

And sorry to all those who can't deal with hearing bad things about DP. I have as much right as anyone to say whatever I want about the platform I've been working on for over 15 years (when it occasionally kicks my ass). And thanks to those who empathised with my plight.

[Twinner]

by the way, my alter ego exists on another computer....not trying to hide out

[mastermix]

I hate to use the word ass -- now I can use it!

I did the "Kill Bill" movie dance track remix with RADAR synced to DP 4.52.

You have to watch what your read in here...too many asses!

Kris...

[Timeline]

There is no doubt DP sync can work as described but Ampldood, the original poster from Franklin Tenn, was in the middle of a hard session and was likely really stressed.

I think the best thing we can all do knowing DP 'CAN' work, even 4.52, is help him rather than all the drama attachments and chest pounding as seen here to date.

There are some VERY cool things happening in Franklin like Blackbird studios which use Radar as a base and to help users work out or even solve these problems helps the platform survive and gives its base, (THAT'S US), credibility. We all want that, right?

I really don't care if someone bashes DP coming from that situation and would expect it. Let em vent.

I have been there and it's embarrassing to be around other pros when these problems occur regardless whose at fault.

Anyway..., for me, moving up to a dual G5 2.5, adding ram and the drives I mentioned went a long way in solving sync issues.

Possibly the studios will have a better hardware situation for him so that he can make it work.

Best of luck.

<small>[ March 28, 2005, 02:56 AM: Message edited by: Timeline ]</small>

[Splinter]

Kris:

Just because DP is not working as advertised does not make me an ass! Has anyone read my post? I'm not some freaking noob who has no idea what I'm doing. I've been using DP for 15 years and I know how to sync my freaking computer. It works flawlessly in 4.12, but and soon as I switch to 4.52 its broken. I'm not trying to trash DP, I'm just saying something is extremely wrong. I even disabled ADC and it still has issues.

I find it abhorant that someone here having problems with DP would be flamed for its shortcomings. Sure, I've defended DP to the hilt, but when long time users start recognizing significant issues we could at least offer a helping hand or, God forbid, acknowledge that DP has something wrong.

I don't agree with Amplidood's ridiculous generalization, but others here, myself included, have verified the same issue with DP and it needs to be fixed so we can get the professional results we all know DP can deliver.

[mastermix]

Splinter...mea culpa...

my post was mainly directed at the base topic.

I am SORRY if I offended YOU....honestly.

I had a hard time distinguishing between a genuine call for help in this thread and the continual blasting of DP in the forum.

I use all of the major DAWS....none is perfect and they all have their pros and cons.

Make sure you are running current RADAR software and read carefully both DP 4.52 and RADAR II/24 docs on using/setting word clocks and sync ports.

The RADAR docs can be obtained here:

http://www.recordingtheworld.com/mainframe.asp

Kris..

<small>[ March 28, 2005, 12:13 PM: Message edited by: mastermix ]</small>

[Splinter]

Kris:

Going back to my earlier posts, I'm not syncing with RADARs, I'm loading tracks off of DA38s sample accurately into DP. I've been doing this for years in DP - this is not something new I'm trying - and it now has significant problems in 4.52. Works like a charm in 4.12 with the identical setup and settings. Read my previous posts with the details.

[mastermix]

Splinter...

again...I was addressing the base topic -- Radar and DP sync.

Kris..

[Circuitt]

I Don't know what you are talking about.

[Digitalperformer88]

Please everyone excuse the newbe but this seems to be simalar to my problem I was having sending sync to a D8B, the problem seems to be fixed after removing the control surface plugin for HUI from the plugin folder and then there was peace and harmony in the universe once again!
Go to the main hard drive:LIBRARY/AUDIO/PLUGINS/CONTROL SURFACES, remove the HUI PLUGIN, leave it on your desktop, restart DP
Any better?