Bias Peak XT vs. Wave Arts Power Suite vs. Ozone 3
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Bias Peak XT vs. Wave Arts Power Suite vs. Ozone 3
Anyone have experience with two or all of these? How are the comparisons. I've used the search function and learned some things, but I feel this may deserve a new thread. I was planning on using one of these programs alongside Altiverb.
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To add to Brad's post, the "XT" part of Peak is what I'm guessing you're referring to - the additional plugins that come with the editor app. While I don't have the XT version, Peak Pro does run pretty well for me and hosts most plugins pretty well. The XT plugins are not Universal Binary yet, if I recall correctly.
I have most of the Power Suite plugins, and they're quite nice, and easy on the CPU. They're on the transparent side of things, as opposed to plugins that add coloring to your sound.
Ozone gives you all the processing in one interface, which can be good or bad depending on how you like to work. Many people seem to like Ozone a lot. I tried the demo, and plan on getting it at some point.
Again, depending on what you want to do, I'd doubt you would be calling up Ozone for a track EQ, while you can do this easily with one of the WaveArts plugins, for instance. If you're looking at these plugins solely at the mastering stage, that's another thing entirely.
I have most of the Power Suite plugins, and they're quite nice, and easy on the CPU. They're on the transparent side of things, as opposed to plugins that add coloring to your sound.
Ozone gives you all the processing in one interface, which can be good or bad depending on how you like to work. Many people seem to like Ozone a lot. I tried the demo, and plan on getting it at some point.
Again, depending on what you want to do, I'd doubt you would be calling up Ozone for a track EQ, while you can do this easily with one of the WaveArts plugins, for instance. If you're looking at these plugins solely at the mastering stage, that's another thing entirely.
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Others may have better answers to this question, but for me, I simply prefer to work in a dedicated editor for certain things. I rarely use loops, but when I need to create or edit loops, I like being able to more easily see what I'm doing in Peak Pro, and find it easier to do, less distracting, and prefer to do it completely separate from the project I might have in DP.
For finishing songs, I like to bounce down to a stereo file and apply any fades or final touches of EQ or overall compression (or other treatment) in Peak Pro.
I use it to host instruments and quickly audition sounds without interrupting an existing DP project or creating a new one.
I use it to downsample to 16 bits with dithering and convert to mp3.
That's a quick summary. You could do what you need, and so could I, in DP. Personal preference.
For finishing songs, I like to bounce down to a stereo file and apply any fades or final touches of EQ or overall compression (or other treatment) in Peak Pro.
I use it to host instruments and quickly audition sounds without interrupting an existing DP project or creating a new one.
I use it to downsample to 16 bits with dithering and convert to mp3.
That's a quick summary. You could do what you need, and so could I, in DP. Personal preference.
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I don't use Bias Peak all that often, but I have found it to be a wonderful source of specific and often unusual effects and effects combinations, for instance, if you want to take a drum track and make it sound as if it's coming out of an old transistor radio. Same for special treatments on vocal tracks.
For whatever reason, the structure and format of Peak makes this sort of thing a lot more intuitive and simple for me than, say, trying to achieve the same thing straight from within Digital Performer.
Plus, consider that if you have already found that special effects combination in Peak and applied it to a track, you can then fly it back into DP with the effects printed, thus not bogging down DP by having it work to create that sound in a large mix.
For whatever reason, the structure and format of Peak makes this sort of thing a lot more intuitive and simple for me than, say, trying to achieve the same thing straight from within Digital Performer.
Plus, consider that if you have already found that special effects combination in Peak and applied it to a track, you can then fly it back into DP with the effects printed, thus not bogging down DP by having it work to create that sound in a large mix.
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Is it a boob? Is it insane?donato wrote:...I'm a "super" newbie.
No, it's Super-Noob!

You're my kind of super-noob, donato.donato wrote:...My next question woudl be, why do you need an application like Bias if you can do it anyway within DP?
Your DP-Bias(!) came pre-programmed straight from the factory.

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Wow. That was helpful...monkey man wrote:Is it a boob? Is it insane?donato wrote:...I'm a "super" newbie.
No, it's Super-Noob!
You're my kind of super-noob, donato.donato wrote:...My next question woudl be, why do you need an application like Bias if you can do it anyway within DP?
Your DP-Bias(!) came pre-programmed straight from the factory.
I know synthesizers. Ask me anything...computer recording? Not so much.
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Consider it a welcome of sorts, as that's how it was meant.donato wrote:Wow. That was helpful...monkey man wrote:Is it a boob? Is it insane?donato wrote:...I'm a "super" newbie.
No, it's Super-Noob!
You're my kind of super-noob, donato.donato wrote:...My next question woudl be, why do you need an application like Bias if you can do it anyway within DP?
Your DP-Bias(!) came pre-programmed straight from the factory.
I always welcome newbies (when I encounter them) with a joke.
Sorry the "Superman" thing was kinda lame!

FWIW, I'll be using DP exclusively, but I s'pose if I had money to burn I'd Peak it too.
If TC's Spark was still available I'd use that, but unfortunately they discontinued it.
It'd be cool if a ProUnicorn could compare it with Peak; I'm certain many of them would have used both apps.
I haven't used any of the other apps, sorry.

From what I've read, though, Ozone seems brilliant for mastering-style compression, EQ and limiting.
The Power Suite is apparently good value; it's efficient, too.
It's a plug-suite that can also be used "mastering-style".
As far as only using DP goes, I'm sure gonna give it a go.
Apps such as Peak offer sophisticated CD preparation and more "forensic" editing options, as it's essentially a 2 track editor.
It may offer more tracks now, as I've noticed others are.

I'm afraid that's all I can donate, donato, at least for now.
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