be carefull buying MOTU proiducts for use with windows

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be carefull buying MOTU proiducts for use with windows

Post by windmeup »

I have been googeling the NET and there is an enormous amount of posting of problems with the Ultralite from MOTU and windows based computers.
Ok SP2 has problems, but still there are so many postings with problems.

I think MOTU should be more honest regarding advertising their products compatible with windows.

Thanks again TK for your post about the Ultralite today. I am so glad i did this research before buying the Ultralite.

what a bad company !


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will my centrino laptop 1.6 with TI fw chipset work with the UL ?? i didnt take the gamble and went for the firebox
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Post by windmeup »

oops moderatorplease delte this posting BUT let the other remain so to prevent people from buying the ultralite for their windows pc
will my centrino laptop 1.6 with TI fw chipset work with the UL ?? i didnt take the gamble and went for the firebox
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Post by tomazzzi »

motu rocks & works great on windows

just buy a good pc not a piece of sh**
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Post by reprov »

I'm careful about buying ANY interface for Windows.

But I just bought an 8pre because my 2408 has performed so flawlessly. I'm fairly pleased with MOTU as interface vendors go. There are some that obviously don't have their act together.

When I visit vendor forums, I don't worry about a bunch of posts from people who have problems, that appears on all support forums. What worries me about is when people are begging for a promised driver update and there hasn't been one for a year or two. Or if new features have been "under development" forever. Those are the red flag items that'll turn me off to a vendor.
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Post by rwafish »

Stop believing everything you read and go and test one for yourself.

MOTU is the dogs bollocks and I don't just say that of any company, most are bandits but my point is, at least these make a superior product.

You can't expect people here to take you seriously when you admit openly that you don't have a MOTU. You are just quoting from other places on the web and no one ever got it wrong on the internet did they?

BTW why would you come to a motu forum and bitch about a product that you have never tried, let alone owned?
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Post by zara_drummer »

7 months with my 8pre...I use it between a laptop and a desktop and have had Z E R O issues.

No driver issues, no firewire compatibility issues nothing.

The only problem I've had with MOTU is that my volume knob broke...but the unit was reaplaced...and when I was borrowing an 896HD from a friend it took me a few hours to get it all configured properly...but that was my dumb fault...not the MOTU.

In fact if it weren't for my friend letting me use his 896HD, I probably wouldn't have bought the 8pre.
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Re: be carefull buying MOTU proiducts for use with windows

Post by dfg_MacGyver »

windmeup wrote:I have been googeling the NET and there is an enormous amount of posting of problems with the Ultralite from MOTU and windows based computers.
Ok SP2 has problems, but still there are so many postings with problems.

I think MOTU should be more honest regarding advertising their products compatible with windows.

Thanks again TK for your post about the Ultralite today. I am so glad i did this research before buying the Ultralite.

what a bad company !


:twisted:
I have use my PCI 424 with HD192 on 4 diff computers:
Mac G4 dual 500
Pc duron 1200
Pc Intel P4 3,0
Pc Intel conroe 6600 dualcore

I've had NO problems.
Regarding sp2 its no problem now, used to be but now there are no problems with sp2.
Maybe u should check ur Pc hardware....
pc and mac ,logic and cubase, powercore pci and UAD. HD192 on both platforms, no problems. :-)
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Post by zara_drummer »

I think you will find as with almost any piece of hardware that there is going to a problem with Windows somewhere along the line.

Can you sit there and say with a degree of sincerity that MOTU went out made a product they knew wouldnt work on a Windows computer?

As far as SP2 goes, it broke lots of things...not just MOTU hardware.

When are people going to start blaming their OS and their lack of resources for their failures? Windows was never ever designed to do the things we're asking it to do. MOTU and other manufacturers realize this but they also realize that Windows has a larger foothold on the common user market.

Most Macs come with a standardized set of hardware that is known to be compatible with each other and the OS. There arent the variables that you have in the Windows market because people can put a machine together for $500 and their on their way. Just cuz you have a computer doesnt mean that its capable of recording musict, or attatch a device as complicated as the Traveler, or an MBOX and have success. These devices require the proper resources.
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Post by djvx »

Here'another one: my pc is a cheap one for the price, with all the features to work hard and wide and is set up for multipurpose usage and my Ultralite is the jewel that makes it noble !
and as for the company... I got excellent feedback from US while I asked for help from across the seas... U gotta start rollin' someday bud ! 8)
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Re: be carefull buying MOTU proiducts for use with windows

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windmeup wrote:I have been googeling the NET and there is an enormous amount of posting of problems with the Ultralite from MOTU and windows based computers.
Do some more reading and you'll find that many firewire based sound cards have issues on Windows PCs. Not just MOTU.
I think MOTU should be more honest regarding advertising their products compatible with windows.
It's not MOTU's problem. There is a good reason why there are more firewire compatibility problems with Windows machines.

Think about it for a second... Macs are made by apple exclusively. They choose one type of chip for a given model of Mac. MOTU only need to test on that one chip and know their product will work on every mac.

PC's are all different. The Firewire on a PC might be onboard, it might be on a PCI card, it might be on the PCI bus or a PCI Express port. It might have a Texas Instruments chipset, VIA chipset, Oxford chipset, NEC chipset, or one of the other brands out there - God knows.
what a bad company !
I'm a Sonar user. I hang out on the Sonar forums a lot. Many, many users there love their MOTU interfaces. But on the other hand, a number of users have problems with Firewire cards of all brands. The concensus seems to be that they work best with Texas Intruments chipset Firewire interfaces.

The only thing bad here is your lack of research.
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Post by worldwormstudios »

I have the Ultralite and Microlite. The drivers didn't work on my windows xp 64bit os but on 32bit it has been working wonderful so far.
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Post by resolectric »

tomazzzi wrote:motu rocks & works great on windows

just buy a good pc not a piece of sh**
Never had a problem with ANY interface in Windows.

Echo, Presonus, MOTU... never had a glitch with neither in all of the Windows systems i've used along the years.

I'm starting to feel guilty. Sorry.
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Post by Smokehouse »

I love BOTH of my MOTU 828mkII's. Unbeatable at the price. That said, I will say that other interface makers have done a better job at Windows support and at driver releases overall. But I'd still buy another MOTU!
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Post by drennis »

well im going to stick up for windmeups comment.

yes there are always problems with some firewire devices and certain pc configs. its nothing to do with having a "good or bad" or "cheap or expensive" pc config. it seems to be fluke. i.e was the machine motu tested with similar to yours? do you happen to have the same chipset? etc...

motu seem to be particualry rubbish at pc testing. many other companys are also bad at this but what really pisses me off about motu is that they appear to make absolutly no attempt to fix the problems.

they also do not release any change logs for their drivers.
they never respond to any of my emails even when I email them from my business address (its a very well known broadcast company)

they are polite on the phone but utterly useless and also expensive to call from the UK.
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Post by mission »

just got a 896 HD and a firewire card to interface with.

was using an emu 1820m...

didnt even uninstall the old drivers.

put the card in, turned on my computer, installed the drivers.

installed the motu software, plugged it in.

it worked.

beats the •••• out of my 1820.

you're wrong.
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