Anybody else having this issue with DP5?

Hesseman · Post by **Hesseman** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 1:10 pm

I'm using DP5.01 right now and for some reason in Quickscribe when I try to use the Dynamics Palatte to place dynamic marks on the staff, it doesn't place. The Arangement Palatte works fine and the tools, but not the Dynamics Palatte... what gives?? Is everybody else's Dynamic Palatte in Quickscribe working? Maybe I just need to buy Finale?? *sigh
Thanks!

Dwetmaster · Post by **Dwetmaster** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 1:20 pm

It might not be the answer you wanted to hear but You should really try DP5.11 No matter if you're on intel or PPC it's well worth it.
It's a free update. I was not able reproduce your problem in DP5.11

Frodo · Post by **Frodo** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 1:28 pm

5.01 wasn't a successful update, imho. It is clear that QS is not one of DPs stronger features no matter what version you use. QS as a dedicated notation tool (even where all of its features work) falls short of what's needed.

I don't know what Mac you have and how it might be outfitted, but I'd recommend getting 5.11 if possible for a start. This will at least get QS's features working properly.

Short of getting Sibelius or the full blown Finale, give Finale Allegro a peek. Your choice of articulation, dynamics, fonts, chord symbols, guitar tablature, lyrics, page formatting, slurs, etc., are all more easily accessed and customized outside of QuickSribe. I'm sure others might chime in with recommendations for other non-Finale notation products-- but no matter: you'll spend more time trying to get QS to bend to your will than you would by using a dedicated notation program.

With that said, some discussion may arise as to how well a notation app will translate a MIDI file. With Finale, for example, some bars will translate well while others will not. I simply do more than one import with different import settings as needed, but I've never had to do more than 2 imports even with large orchestral scores-- so this may or may not be an issue for lead sheets and single charts.

HCMarkus · Post by **HCMarkus** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:47 pm

Hey Ev. Good luck sorting this out. If you move to 5.11, you'll probably be scanning the Waves threads soon.

Hesseman · Post by **Hesseman** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:47 pm

Thanks Mark. With one problem solved another one arrises. I think I'm going to stick with 5.01 and go with a version of Finale. Thanks for your replies guys.

Frodo, might I ask. Have you used Finale Allegro? Since I don't need the Garritan samples and the ability to have a staff that consists of more than six primary lines, will Allegro be my friend? I just want to take my MIDI out of DP and get it ready for an orchestra. Sure there will need to be minor tweaking with accent marks and the such, but otherwise, will I run into any drawbacks by not going to the full blown Finale? Can you import the AIFF of your score into Allegro and listen to your mix as you watch the score go by? Thanks!

Frodo · Post by **Frodo** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 6:32 pm

Hesseman wrote:Frodo, might I ask. Have you used Finale Allegro?

Honestly, no- only the full version.

Hesseman wrote: Since I don't need the Garritan samples and the ability to have a staff that consists of more than six primary lines, will Allegro be my friend?

Could be-- but check the PM I sent with the links. You'll want to peruse the features of Allegro and its big brother to get an idea of what will be most useful.

Hesseman wrote: I just want to take my MIDI out of DP and get it ready for an orchestra. Sure there will need to be minor tweaking with accent marks and the such, but otherwise, will I run into any drawbacks by not going to the full blown Finale?

In DP, I save my sequence as an SMF-- note: any disabled MIDI tracks don't get saved with the SMF. Various import quantizing settings are made with Finale, but when preparing a sequence for Finale, I make sure to quantize note on and note off in DP (before saving as SMF) for every note to ensure the most accurate outcome. If you want to save a sequence for a more realistic, more musical performance, then always work from a copy of your sequence.

I'm not 100% sure of the scope of your scoring needs, but Allegro is pretty much the same app as Finale minus a few features. I suppose one could overwhelm Allegro when writing for orchestra-- but if you are not using more than 32 staves per score, then Allegro should be really fine and affordably so.

Check my PM for information about Sibelius as well. If you think that the full version of Finale is probable, then Sibelius is really worth looking at for the same price, especially for a non Finale user.

Hesseman wrote: Can you import the AIFF of your score into Allegro and listen to your mix as you watch the score go by? Thanks!

Finale 2007 has video support-- which doesn't have to include an actual video; I suppose you could just open it as audio, but I've yet to try this feature personally. (Sibelius has something similar.) Keep in mind that movie support is not included in Allegro.
http://codamusic.com/finale/features/ne ... pport.aspx

Cheers!
Frodo