Motu 828mkII with Yamaha mg16/4 mixer

[vagfux]

How do i connect them together? i have 8 mics going in to the mixer and i want them to go to the motu so i can have each mic in a track on my computer. And the controls on the mixer wont work when i move them up and down. i get no volume control with them. Any help would be great

[jrdmcdnld]

Does the board have direct outs? If not, you can usually access a mic pre signal pre fader/pre eq at the channel insert point. You might have to rig a couple cables up to do this - if it does not do the old "insert to first click for direct out" like the mackies do.

[dr. Fill]

http://www.presonus.com/pdf/insert_as_analog.pdf

[vagfux]

the mixer has I/o 1/4 jacks. There arnt cables i can buy that are already made?

[jrdmcdnld]

You can buy regular insert cables. The ones you want would be 1/4" TRS to dual 1/4" TS. They are made specificly for 1/4" TRS single point insert use.

This cable will work:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ ... sku=333030

The downside of this is that taking your direct out from this cable will render the channel on the board signal-less. If you make a cable that shorts out the Tip to the sleeve, you have both the direct out and the through to the board channel.

Hope that helps!

[jrdmcdnld]

I have another idea for you if you don't want to build your own cables. You could buy the insert cables shown above, and also buy a patchbay with half normaling (multing) capabilities.

Plug the insert I/O into the front of the patchbay and the top rear connector into the input of your DAW.

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See the "half normaled / multed" setup.


.....this setup takes signal off the pre amps, mults it to both the insert return, and recorder. Problem solved!

[vagfux]

These are the cables i have. i just wanna be able to plug the 8 into the mixer then the other 8 into motu. and have control in sonar 6 over each mic.

[dr. Fill]

I have another idea for you if you don't want to build your own cables. You could buy the insert cables shown above, and also buy a patchbay with half normaling (multing) capabilities.

That's an easy way out indeed.
But I would try to minimise the amount of patching contacts, that's never a good way to build a signalchain.

"shorting out" the tip-ring on a ballanced jack plug is really easy to do and works great. Just helped out a friend with this same problem. Yamaha MG10/2 >> Maudio delta 1010. Works just fine.

[vagfux]

how would i short them out? sorry im kinda new to this.

[dr. Fill]

how would i short them out? sorry im kinda new to this.

look @ the drawing

What you do is connect the pin for the tip with the pin for the ring.

[vagfux]

i have the hosa 8 channel recording cables.

[dr. Fill]

Hosa 8 channel cable?
Got me a photo or something
then i'll be able to tell you how to make it work

[jrdmcdnld]

That's an easy way out indeed.
But I would try to minimise the amount of patching contacts, that's never a good way to build a signalchain.

Right, it is better and cheaper to modify cables to do this. But he asked if there were a cable he could just buy to accomplish the mission.

[mconn99]

If your mixer lacks direct outs, the proper way to do this without all the jury-rigging is to get a mic splitter. These devices are designed specifically for this sort of application. A mic splitter takes the input of a microphone (or any source) and provides multiple outputs of the same signal. Usually they are configured to have one parallel output and one tranformer-isolated output for each channel. You would connect the parallel side to your mixer and connect the transformer side to your recording interface. ART makes an 8-channel, 1-rack space unit called the T8 that is very inexpensive (about $149 from sweetwater) and has multiple paralleled and transformer-isolated outs for each channel. This type of device will provide the connections you need AND electrically isolate your mixer and recording interface from eachother to eliminate hum and grounding issues between your equipment, while still using normal balanced cables to preserve the quality of your signal. For single-channel applications, you can get an ART split-com (or something similar) which does the same thing on one input for about $30.